Expensive Dog Walk

[Jer]

Not what I said. I said the law is the law and I have nothing wrong with it. I'm not questioning the law or how it is enforced. I was questioning your very general statement that dogs can't be trained not to spook. You're obviously very worked up so I think I'll let it rest rather than ruin your evening.

My evening is just fine thanks. Taken out of context I could see how you would think I was oblivious to dog training and didn't know anything about certain dogs who are trained certain ways. It also isn't true that 100% of all dogs can be trained to not spook by gunfire so as long as that statistic isn't 100% then we can't expect EVERY dog to react to ALL unknowns in a predictable manner. I stand by my previous statement which was dogs couldn't be trained to not spook but if you apply context you see that I was saying that dogs can't be trained to not spook to ALL situations which could make lack of leash a non-issue. You chose to see it as I was saying that no dog could be trained to not spook about ANY situations which is a big difference between those two little words. Still has no bearing on this conversation because it's impossible to take a dog and make them spook proof from all situations, known and unknown. After all by definition if a situation is unknown how can you train a dog against it?

I can't believe I've even responding to this actually. It's reading comprehension at it's most basic form.

[Jer]

actually my son who is now 12 has been attacked twice in his life by those nice dogs who were just off the leash cause they feel better that way. my sister in law has a torn ACL due to being run over by a friendly dog that was off his leash.

far as I am concerned, you deserve the ticket. and your dog's urge to run free is not worth the kid or adult that they bite. just because he is normally friendly doesn't mean he always will be

Exactly. Nobody ever says 'Oh, that doesn't surprise me... my dog bites and attacks ALL the time' so that means it can be ANY dog at ANY time and to think you know how your dog will react to all situations proves your intelligence.

[DD977GM2]

so I was doing 80MPH down this side street.. yeah it was a 35mph zone, but there was no one around but this cop....

Exactly what I was thinking.

Dont get mad at the Cop for your inability to follow the law. Yeah the Cop could have handled it diffrently, but
in the end it is you who broke the law and wanted the cop to give you a break.

[Atrain1]

So as it’s a nice afternoon I decide to take the dogs for a walk. I went to the site of the new rec center off Grand View Meadows.
To cut a long story as there’s no else around so I decided to let the dogs off the leash. Middle of the entire open space quiet as can be, yes I know there’s a Longmont City off-leash law but it’s a nice day and no-one is around.
No one but the K-9 Cop who walks on over with her board in hand and no mess no fuss slaps a 2 dog off leash ticket on me! Dang whatever happened to warnings or cops using judgment! Guess it’s the end of the month and they need to top up the donut fund?
Ok so I know I was in the wrong but there was no one else around and the dogs weren’t being a menace. Hell my GSD is probably better trained than any of the Longmont PD dogs! Shutzhund and protection dog certified!
Anyone any idea what the fine will be? Don’t have the time to go to court and will just have to pay, I’m just curious as to how expensive the walk is going to be.
And yes I know there’s off leash parks! Ever been to them, full of badly trained dogs and dog crap!

Just a thought if you follow the Laws and have a little more RESPECT for Police officers just doing their job you probably wont have any problems. And I highly doubt your dog has been better trained than a Police K-9. I had a friend who used to train Dogs for WSO, he helped train my Rottweiler. She did not even go through a 1/4 of the training and that was enough for me, so I could only amagine how they are when fully trained. Anyway bottom line follow the law and you wont get a ticket.

[Elhuero]

tl;dr

what are we arguing about?

[Atrain1]

actually my son who is now 12 has been attacked twice in his life by those nice dogs who were just off the leash cause they feel better that way. my sister in law has a torn ACL due to being run over by a friendly dog that was off his leash.

far as I am concerned, you deserve the ticket. and your dog's urge to run free is not worth the kid or adult that they bite. just because he is normally friendly doesn't mean he always will be

I agree as well cause I tell you what just to give you an idea of what could happen if a dog were to run towards my kids I would pump lead in it until it dropped. It might be the nicest dog in the world but I do not know why it is running for my kids and would not hesitate to stop it.

[alxone]

Reading the many paranoid replies on this subject. Is the fear of loose dogs causing problems with hunters using dogs while bird hunting?

My thought is people are getting conditioned to fear dogs due to the media reporting of bites and lack of long term relationships, transit life styles effecting dog ownership and training.
Fearful people get dogs excited.

have you ever been attacked by a dog ?? i have and i have know a few others like my friend tony in the 80's . we were kids walking home from school and out of nowhere a pit that attacked us , i got away and tony got brain damage . he was 12 and where he was a normal kid before he has to cared for in every way still .
so yes i dont care what the circumstances are
strange dog off leash = threat

[Irving]

Yes... because Dog Owners rights to let their dogs run outweigh my rights to walk in the park without being molested by a "nice dog" that just wants to say hi.

I think you're a baby. The dog was the earliest domesticated animal in the world. Most of our "dog problem" is in our heads.

A dog being around you isn't encroaching on any of your rights. Even if it jumps on you.

[SideShow Bob]

I think you're a baby.
A dog being around you isn't encroaching on any of your rights. Even if it jumps on you.

Well then just call me Huey. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...c/Babyhuey.JPG. If an unknown dog jumps on me or mine at a public park, it will be the last time that dog jumps on anyone.

[alxone]

If an unknown dog jumps on me or mine at a public park, it will be the last time that dog jumps on anyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aptl4jXYIIs