No on 103

[JoeT]

when the state (county and city too) can show me that they are effectively using my $6500 a year in property taxes, and my 8.25% on everything I purchase...my .125% road use tax, my 4.63% in state income tax, .....etc, etc, etc, I'll gladly give more to education.

I have 2 daughters in elementary school. And want what's best for them, but if we continue to "feed the beast" it'll only get worse.


My family and I live within our means (as I'm sure many here do as well) it's time our government starts to do the same. I'm making $40,000 less now than I did in 2008, but my taxes and costs keep going up....They keep taking a bigger piece of the pie

[RussDXT]

voted no! public schools are a joke and should be done away with.

[Byte Stryke]

I too tire of the pandering to human greed to solve our problems.
We aren't going to fix our schools by simply throwing more money at it.

We require deep political and social changes to initiate those changes in our schools.

we need to rid ourselves of the entitlements, the nanny-state and the daycare mentality before anything will change.

The teacher's wage is NOT the problem... the problem is the fat at the top sucking the school funding dry. School administrators do not need to make as much as a Senator.

It is not the teachers job to raise our kids... Their job is to educate.

Get government out of my disciplinary decisions... if my kid steps out of line, it is my responsibility to knock him back in. My Father did it, His father before him, as well as his before him... worked well so far.


more money will not fix any of this.

[jackthewall81]

I too tire of the pandering to human greed to solve our problems.
We aren't going to fix our schools by simply throwing more money at it.

We require deep political and social changes to initiate those changes in our schools.

we need to rid ourselves of the entitlements, the nanny-state and the daycare mentality before anything will change.

The teacher's wage is NOT the problem... the problem is the fat at the top sucking the school funding dry. School administrators do not need to make as much as a Senator.

It is not the teachers job to raise our kids... Their job is to educate.

Get government out of my disciplinary decisions... if my kid steps out of line, it is my responsibility to knock him back in. My Father did it, His father before him, as well as his before him... worked well so far.


more money will not fix any of this.

Nothing will fix this.

We are screwed and will need some tremendous social overhauling before we will be able to have children who are not sissys because the government says that physical punishment is bad. And that no child should be left behind bs perpetuates it. The strong survive and the weak die. That is how we need to think as a nation.

The only thing that will change this is when America is on the brink of complete collapse, then peoples rationality and will to survive will remind them that the strong survive and the weak die. No more settling for being okay at something, but everyone will strive to be the best and vote in a government with the same ideals.

[jhood001]

we need to rid ourselves of the entitlements, the nanny-state and the daycare mentality before anything will change.

The teacher's wage is NOT the problem... the problem is the fat at the top sucking the school funding dry. School administrators do not need to make as much as a Senator.

It is not the teachers job to raise our kids... Their job is to educate.

Get government out of my disciplinary decisions... if my kid steps out of line, it is my responsibility to knock him back in. My Father did it, His father before him, as well as his before him... worked well so far.


more money will not fix any of this.

Yes, yes and yes.

In regards to your 'fat at the top' statement, consider this -
The Superintendent for Adams 12 is a lawyer. Yes, a lawyer. He has zero education in the realm of education (excluding education law). His cost to the district comes at a premium because he is a lawyer and further, his primary focus on affairs within his district is avoiding lawsuits. Arguably, doing so will help save money. The downside is that avoiding lawsuits inevitably leads to the further mamby-pamby-ization of our schools.

For example:

My brother is an educator in grades 1-5. When a student becomes disruptive (in many cases downright violent) within his classroom, he can order a 'time-out'. However, if the student refuses, he can do nothing to enforce it.

He can order the student to the principal's office, but he cannot physically make them go. He can then request the principal to his classroom... who can also not physically force the student to go. Their last resort tactic if the student continues to be disruptive is to.... get this... shut off the lights in the room and remove all of the other students!

What does this teach the disruptive student as well as all of the others within the classroom? The squeaky wheel gets the grease.... and has all of the power.

Bad stuff.

[Mobat555]

The problem isn't the funding, it's the attitude and system.

Spending money on education DOES NOT equal better education.

As a teacher in a low socio-econimic school that has minimum funding (even by CO standards), I know beyond a shadow of a doubt, that it is the quality of teachers and not how much money you throw at a problem...

This in my opinion relates to what I think happened with scientists. They pay ridiculously less then wall-street and tech industry. So our highly intelligent people put two and two together and got educated in something else. Less and less you pay teachers the less quality of teachers you get. Because not everyone is like BigBear who is willing to do it for humanity's sake rather then monetary gain. Lower the pay the less educated and capable people will be filling the positions.

[JoeT]

or we could just fix the budget problem by not paying for illegals to go to school here...

It seems as though most of the budget problem in our country can be solved by deporting illegals and not letting them back in.

[jackthewall81]

or we could just fix the budget problem by not paying for illegals to go to school here...

It seems as though most of the budget problem in our country can be solved by deporting illegals and not letting them back in.

There goes our infastructure.

[car-15]

its currently going down in flames 72% no
28% yes

[sniper7]

its currently going down in flames 72% no
28% yes

GOOD