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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I agree... sorry if I step on toes here, but for crying out loud! Common freaking sense! Okay great you want to make a stand and prove you're 2A friendly, good for you, but understand there are people out there who aren't pro-gun and don't think the way we do... it's a buyers market right now so you have to do what you have to do to sell the place. There are people out there that are uncomfortable around guns (unless you're a police officer) and it would be in your best interest to just stop crying and accept the fact that there are anti-gun idiots out there that buy houses too. I'm not saying I think contrary to you guys here, but some of the rhetoric on here kinda gets to be a little annoying at times with the whole "I look down on anti-gun folks" or what have you. I agree, people who are against guns are dumb and I don't like to associate with them, but please understand that they exist and like it or not their opinion of "guns are bad mmmkay" is no less valid than our opinion of "guns rock!" It's when they start to say "Let's rid the world of guns" and actually try to act on it is when they step over a line.
    I feel that asking me to rid my home of guns is stepping over the line. I live in the Mountains, it's not uncommon to find gun safes up here.

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    He was probably covering his a**. You don't know who is coming into your house to "look" at it, nor are background checks run beforehand. Do you want the possibility of a child molester or wannabe thug know which houses have firearms and that the house is open for a walk-thru? There are criminals who use the ruse of buying a home to scope it out for later shopping. When your house has a "for sale" sign on it, your neighbors get used to unknown cars and people at your home, would be buyers get to see your security setup, and a mental floorplan of your home.

    I wouldn't get offended, just cover up your safe and gear with a blanket or something.

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    I'm a Realtor.

    It's about two things - de-personalizing the house, and securing your valuables.


    I don't care what it is - guns, moose mounts or your doll house collection... get it out of the house. Take your family photos off the wall. The more buyers are looking at you and the way you live, the less they're imagining themselves living there.

    To my second point... if an agent wants to book a showing, you have no idea who their client is. Prescription drugs out of the medicine cabinet, guns out of the house or secured (I don't care if there's a safe, but you wouldn't believe how many guns lying out I've seen).

    If you want to make sure your house doesn't sell... be there when potential buyers come through. It's a totally different experience going through the house when the owner is there, and it's never positive.

    ...and as far as Realtors go, I'm inclined to agree with some of the negative rap we get. The 80/20 rule applies to Realtors just like everywhere else.

    I will say being self employed and never again having a boss is pretty freakin' cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx'r View Post
    I feel that asking me to rid my home of guns is stepping over the line. I live in the Mountains, it's not uncommon to find gun safes up here.
    Just tell 'em it's your "medical supplies" safe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Just tell 'em it's your "medical supplies" safe...

    WIN.. Lmao

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    Im sure the realtor is not trying to stomp on your 2A rights but is simply trying to impart knowledge on how best to sell your home quickly. The first thing a realtor is going to tell you when you want to list your home for sale is to de-clutter and de-personalize the home. If that offends you, leave the safe where it is. You may get lucky and a gun enthusiast will get a great idea for where to put his safe should he buy the home and your house may sit on the market for a year because you wanted to leave the safe where it was

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    The realtor made a suggestion to increase the number of people who would feel comfortable in your home. The purpose of that suggestion was to increase the likelihood of selling your home at the best price.

    Generating attitude about it is not a wise use of your time or attention.

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    Only did the house shopping thing once, and that was 10 years ago. But it never ceased to amaze me the condition some of the houses were in when we went through them.

    Some looked like show houses that had been stripped of nearly all personal items, so you could see what the actual "house" looked like, and others looked like they'd just gotten a phone call that we were on the way, grabbed the kids and hauled ass out the back door.

    We looked at one house that we couldn't even check out the basement because there were two or three big kennels in there with these humongous German Shepards in them, just raising Holy Hell and trying to get us. Yeah, that'll help sell the place quick.

    Basically, what we took away from the experience, and what the realtor told us, is the best way to sell a house is to not only clean it top to bottom and every nook and cranny, fix every wart and problem, paint every detail, but take as much stuff out as you possibly can and store it. It needs to be as minimal inside as possible.

    Prospective buyers want to see the HOUSE, the GARAGE, and the BASEMENT, etc., what it looks like, what shape it's in, what it needs and doesn't need. All of your personal stuff in there will only detract and distract, and make them lose interest quickly. Plus, you feel like you're intruding into someone's home, you feel like a burglar, sorta.

    She told us the best way to sell your house quickly is to basically move out as much as you can, and clean/detail it as much as you can. I'm fucked, our house is so fulla shit there's no way I could ever clean it out enough to show it. I'd have to have the next house already bought so we could move in to it and then sell the old one.

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    When we were trying to sell our old place the first thing our real estate told us to do was to remove as much of our stuff as possible. She felt so adamantly about this that she allowed us to store a large portion of our personal belongings in the basement of her house.

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