Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry

[TS12000]

Before this thread spirals out of control I would just like to say that those who would take away the rights of the minority by forcing their views on them via vote deserve to see the same when it comes to things they enjoy. Just because 51% of people say something is so doesn't make it so. You are not the morality police and neither is the government, a nation of HOA boardmembers is what we've become it seems.

[Ridge]

Well said, TS12000.

[Jumpstart]

Please tell me how it negatively affects you for two men to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

Part 1. Tell me why it is necessary for two men to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

Part 2. Devaluation of real marriages = Divorces >children hurt > crime rates higher single family homes> teen pregnancy > higher drug use > moral decay > breakdown of societies.

Hence marriage needs valuation in our times, not devaluation.

[Byte Stryke]

Before this thread spirals out of control I would just like to say that those who would take away the rights of the minority by forcing their views on them via vote deserve to see the same when it comes to things they enjoy. Just because 51% of people say something is so doesn't make it so. You are not the morality police and neither is the government, a nation of HOA boardmembers is what we've become it seems.

HUGE +1


not my thing, but its not MY business what other consenting adults do.

[tmleadr03]

Part 1. Tell me why it is necessary for two men to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

Part 2. Devaluation of real marriages = Divorces >children hurt > crime rates higher single family homes> teen pregnancy > higher drug use > moral decay > breakdown of societies.

Hence marriage needs valuation in our times, not devaluation.

Part 1: Tell me why it is necessary for a man and a women to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

[TS12000]

And why is it necessary for a man and a woman to get that piece of paper? Devaluation of marriage? What are traditional marriages averaging these days. 40% success rate? Shit, they can't do much worse than that.

[Jumpstart]

Part 1: Tell me why it is necessary for a man and a women to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

Well, why has it been necessary for hundreds of years? All those reasons.

[BPTactical]

I am so very torn on this subject.
1- I am all for personal freedoms, if that is the life that one wishes then so be it. Just don't expect me to accept it as "normal" and don't you dare think you deserve anything exceptional or "protected class" status.
2-Marriage is a sacred union between a man and a woman.
3-Adoption-Bullshit. It takes a man and a woman to make a child and it takes a man and a woman to raise a child. I sincerely feel that a child in a gay marriage is set up to fail. The additional stresses it places on a child must be tremendous.
We have seen historically that a large amount of children that commit serious crimes come from dysfunctional families. Seriously, how much more dysfunctional than wife and wife or husband and husband can you get?

What is the worst part is the clear indicator that this is a further degradation of the very fiber of our society, morals.
Without morals there is no right or wrong.

I think this is by design, one way to weaken a strong county and society is to destroy the basis of said society.
Destroy the traditional family, destroy the morals of society and you have a society that is very easily influenced and manipulated.
Perfect Marxist strategy.

[Ridge]

Part 2. Devaluation of real marriages = Divorces >children hurt > crime rates higher single family homes> teen pregnancy > higher drug use > moral decay > breakdown of societies.

Your marriage is already in trouble if gays getting to use a word put yours into a tailspin.

[Ridge]

Well, why has it been necessary for hundreds of years? All those reasons.

So the government can get money out of you with a license.