Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry

[Flatline]

there should NOT be government recognized marriage. just civil unions or contracts, as i see it.

if a religious institution wants to marry you, well thats yours and their business. be it man man, woman woman, man woman woman woman, etc. if your choice of religion will marry you go for it. the government should only recognize contracts between individuals.

Couldn't agree more.

Part 1. Tell me why it is necessary for two men to get an arbitrary piece of paper that says they are together?

Part 2. Devaluation of real marriages = Divorces >children hurt > crime rates higher single family homes> teen pregnancy > higher drug use > moral decay > breakdown of societies.

Hence marriage needs valuation in our times, not devaluation.

Are you sure that the devaluation of marriage is affected by gays and not by the change in morals by straight couples?

3-Adoption-Bullshit. It takes a man and a woman to make a child and it takes a man and a woman to raise a child.

I can tell you as a fact that mammal offspring can be created by from only females.
Furthermore plenty of single parents have raised children successfully. Maybe you think I should head down to the battered women's shelter and tell those women that if they have children and they don't get back with a man ASAP then they risk forever corrupting their children!

[GilpinGuy]

I can tell you as a fact that mammal offspring can be created by from only females.

Any of them ever been human? We are a bit different than, say, platypuses (are they even mammals?).

[reno316]

Furthermore plenty of single parents have raised children successfully.

Yeah, I don't buy the idea that it takes a man and a woman to raise a child either.

Nor would my single mother.

Can it be a better scenario? Yes, given the right set of circumstances: Two parents that are respectful of each other, hold each other as equals, work together to maintain a consistent set of expectations, etc.

But nobody... NOBODY... is going to convince me that I would have been better off if my mother had stayed with the physically abusive alcoholic womanizing piece of mule dung that was my biological sperm donor.