Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry

[Zundfolge]

If that's your argument... because we've always done it that way... then please log off and get rid of your computer, return to a black powder musket (better yet, a bow and arrow and a spear), get rid of any clothing that isn't made from animal skin, quit driving your car, do your math on an abacus instead of a calculator, ditch your eyeglasses, forget watching TV, no radio...

You missed the entire point of my post.

I'm not defending or attacking gay marriage (I happen to support a wall of separation between marriage and state ... it offends me that I had to pay the state for the privileged of marrying my wife).

My point is only that 1) opposition to gay marriage is NOT the imposition of "Judeo-Christian values" since opposition to homosexuality pre-dates both religions (and is part of most of the worlds religions, past and present). and 2) this is the first time in history that gay marriage is being seriously considered, so its not like those that oppose it are some odd outliers that are rejecting something that has always been considered a common right (like the right to arms for instance).

[tmleadr03]

You missed the entire point of my post.

I'm not defending or attacking gay marriage (I happen to support a wall of separation between marriage and state ... it offends me that I had to pay the state for the privileged of marrying my wife).

My point is only that 1) opposition to gay marriage is NOT the imposition of "Judeo-Christian values" since opposition to homosexuality pre-dates both religions (and is part of most of the worlds religions, past and present). and 2) this is the first time in history that gay marriage is being seriously considered, so its not like those that oppose it are some odd outliers that are rejecting something that has always been considered a common right (like the right to arms for instance).

And again, you are not correct about that "first time" part.

[Zundfolge]

And again, you are not correct about that "first time" part.

Ok, you're going to have to site some sources here. Show me this list of civilizations that had gay marriage before the latter 20th century.

[tmleadr03]

Ok, you're going to have to site some sources here. Show me this list of civilizations that had gay marriage before the latter 20th century.

Roman Emperor Nero married a man or two. Off the top of my head.

[Rucker61]

Roman Emperor Nero married a man or two. Off the top of my head.

Did you wear a hat?

[tmleadr03]

Did you wear a hat?

Not often. Usually it is off the top of my head...

[Jumpstart]

Based on some of the responses here, I am starting wonder. Did the site change to Gay Colorado AR -15 Shooters when it was offline?

[Ridge]

Based on some of the responses here, I am starting wonder. Did the site change to Gay Colorado AR -15 Shooters when it was offline?

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[DeusExMachina]

I was kinda wondering if the site had changed to Colorado Self Righteous AR-15 Shooters, myself.

It's been that for a very long time.

[CO Hugh]

based On Some Of The Responses Here, I Am Starting Wonder. Did The Site Change To Gay Colorado Ar -15 Shooters When It Was Offline?

[rofl2]

Can't we all just get along? Where are the ponies?