Obama says same-sex couples should be able to marry

[Ronin13]

So jumpstart is saying that gays can marry, just not someone of the same sex...

[Irving]

He is making the point that gays currently have equal rights concerning marriage as everyone else, and he is correct.

[Ronin13]

He is making the point that gays currently have equal rights concerning marriage as everyone else, and he is correct.

Yes, but DUH! Of course a gay man can get married, that's not what's at issue, the issue is that said gay man cannot marry his fellow man. Currently, under state law, the state of Colorado does not recognize two dudes (or two chicks) as a legal married couple, thus they don't have the "legal" rights (as listed before) that "normal" married couples enjoy... so saying that gay people can get married is just stupid, sure they can, just not to who they want.

[Mobat555]

Power of attorney
Medical visitation rights

I personally think I should give anyone I choose this right without a marriage of any kind. Never understood why people couldn't. To that matter why the heck does it matter to anyone who gets married, it shouldn't make a difference in taxes etc.

[Sharpienads]

I personally think I should give anyone I choose this right without a marriage of any kind. Never understood why people couldn't. To that matter why the heck does it matter to anyone who gets married, it shouldn't make a difference in taxes etc.

It's just the man trying to keep us down.

[Irving]

Of course the argument is only to trip people up on the semantics of saying they are arguing for equal rights, because technically they already have equal rights. It is easily defeated.

[Jumpstart]

Men marry men? Women marrying women? Absurd.

[Ronin13]

Men marry men? Women marrying women? Absurd.

"Dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!" -Sorry your comment reminded me of Ghostbusters, the best Bill Murray lines come from that movie.

[CO Hugh]

Time for a history lesson, the real issue here is not whether marriage can be devolved, but rather the federal government can force that policy on the states, which is nationalism not federalism.

National review is a good place to search and read articles on both sides, that are well thought out, not the denver post. http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rriage-editors

The issue for "freedom" or a "right" is that under the Constitution and Originalism, the analysis is how was that right understood by founding fathers at the time of adoption of the Constitution in 1789. Thus, if marriage was understood to be same sex then, it may be today. Contrary to progressive assertions the racial cases, such as Dred Scott are not examples of originalism but judicial activism. The other critical calculation here is whether Obama and federal judges can find a federal right to such a thing. Same sex marriage has failed everywhere it has been on the ballot.

Also the Constitution and its progeny were designed to prevent the government from infringing on our inalianeble rights: the right to bear arms is inalienable to everyone by their being. So if this right was being exercised before why do there need to be laws to create the "right"? Rights are those things you are born with such as liberty and freedom; not housing and a job that the government will give you.

Mr. Gutsy move failed to metamorphize before the North Carolina vote. States can and will decide whether to modify the definition of marriage, but it should be based on elected officials doing it or the voters, not judges.

As has been stated earlier, these are the same people that want your guns. It is really an issue between a national government finding rights and federalism. The regime is distracting everyone from the economy and real issue, like gun control and fast and furious to entice the masses with shiny objects and rhetoric that has nothing to do with Presidential duties, because he thinks you are all ignorant stupid bitter clingers. He needs more marriages/relationships to result in no children because that is the only way to get the unemployment rate down.

[spittoon]

Let them loose half their stuff too.

funk yea