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    The 10mm is also legal. Buffalo Bore ammo is also making ammo that is within qualifications for the .357 to be a big game handgun.

    I always carry a handgun hunting now. I had an experience a few years back that included a mountain lion. I was archery hunting, and had left my belt knife and handgun in the truck. I was about a hundred yards from the truck when I ran into a mountain lion on a fresh kill. All I had were mechanical broad heads.

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    Without getting into whether it is legal or not, I gave up carrying a pistol when hunting due to the weight burden, another 4-5 lbs, along with carrying a rifle day pack and other gear. Maybe a light 22 for small stuff, but who is going to shoot when they are elk hunting and run the elk off to the next mountain range.

    In our group, one guy who carries a pistol almost all the time, concealed and when around horses just in case, also does not carry when hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by encorehunter View Post
    The 10mm is also legal. Buffalo Bore ammo is also making ammo that is within qualifications for the .357 to be a big game handgun.

    I always carry a handgun hunting now. I had an experience a few years back that included a mountain lion. I was archery hunting, and had left my belt knife and handgun in the truck. I was about a hundred yards from the truck when I ran into a mountain lion on a fresh kill. All I had were mechanical broad heads.
    ok you cant just leave the story there what happened
    Grab a straw and suck it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geo351 View Post
    Open carry here with my 45 always now, was stalked by a mt lion above gunnison, you can't swing a rifle around quick enough to drop one! And if your field dressing an elk or deer your damn straight I have onto hand!!
    I get having it in hand while field dressing. But are you proposing that if the attack is so imminent that you cannot swing the rifle around while one is behind you, that you will instead have time to drop the rifle, spin around, draw from holster and put an incapacitating shot or shots onto the Mountain Lion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spqrzilla View Post
    A .357 Magnum usually is not a legal method of take for big game in Colorado. It takes a very long barrel and pretty hot loads to make the legal requirements. Last time I looked only Corbon loaded the .357 Magnum with published ballistics in an 8" bbl that were legal.


    yes 357 does have legal rounds and are effective.



    http://www.hornady.com/store/357-Mag...EVERevolution/

    there is another 165g carterige that works well too
    I am not talking about shooting a snubby. I have an 8" 357 and 44 to use for hunting purposly and it is Legal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayock View Post
    Well I'll be damned. It used to be in there, I swear on that. This one is on me for not keeping up with it in years. You can find sites quoting 10-12-105 (2)(b) with the inclusion of the hunting clause.

    I just did a quick search since I knew it was in there (apparently was instead of the more important 'is') and LexisNexis is slower than dirt. I should have known better. I'll keep looking in case it is somewhere else. Going to edit my previous post to stop the spread of probably incorrect information.
    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Care to state which statue you are refrencing about hunting being an affirmative defense? 18-12-105 does not list hunting as an affirmative defense for concealed carry and most CCW weapons are not legal methods for taking large game or birds.
    It's in 18-12-204. (3) (a) (II)


    18-12-204. Permit contents - validity - carrying requirements.


    (1) (a) Each permit shall bear a color photograph of the permittee and shall display the signature of the sheriff who issues the permit. In addition, the sheriffs of this state shall ensure that all permits issued pursuant to this part 2 contain the same items of information and are the same size and the same color.

    (b) A permit is valid for a period of five years after the date of issuance and may be renewed as provided in section 18-12-211. A permit issued pursuant to this part 2, including a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to section 18-12-209, is effective in all areas of the state, except as otherwise provided in section 18-12-214.

    (2) (a) A permittee, in compliance with the terms of a permit, may carry a concealed handgun as allowed by state law. The permittee shall carry the permit, together with valid photo identification, at all times during which the permittee is in actual possession of a concealed handgun and shall produce both documents upon demand by a law enforcement officer. Failure to produce a permit upon demand by a law enforcement officer raises a rebuttable presumption that the person does not have a permit. Failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand as required in this subsection (2) is a class 1 petty offense. A charge of failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand pursuant to this subsection (2) shall be dismissed by the court if, at or before the permittee's scheduled court appearance, the permittee exhibits to the court a valid permit and valid photo identification, both of which were issued to the permittee prior to the date on which the permittee was charged with failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand.

    (b) The provisions of paragraph (a) of this subsection (2) apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

    (3) (a) A person who may lawfully possess a handgun may carry a handgun under the following circumstances without obtaining a permit and the handgun shall not be considered concealed:

    (I) The handgun is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or in some other private means of conveyance and who carries the handgun for a legal use, including self-defense; or

    (II) The handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.

    (b) The provisions of this subsection (3) shall not be construed to authorize the carrying of a handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-105 or 18-12-105.5.
    http://www.michie.com/colorado/lpext...-frame.htm&2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcsurveyer1361 View Post
    ok you cant just leave the story there what happened
    I came over a little rise, saw a deer leg on the ground. I thought, "Huh, somebody got one, but they wasted some meat on the leg." Walked a little further and saw the deer laying there. Stopped in my tracks, and thought, "Oh crap." I then saw the lion about 5-6 yards from the deer, about 15 yards from me. I reached for my pistol, then thought, "SH@#! I left my pack in the truck." I grabbed an arrow and began slowly backing out. I backed over the little rise out of sight, and did a sprint back to the truck. I decided that was enough hunting for one day.

    One .357 pistol that easily reaches the qualifications is the Contender. It will push 2000fps with a 125gr bullet with about 1K ft lbs of energy at the muzzle if I remember right. That is a hand load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Awesome. Thanks. I knew it was in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    It's in 18-12-204. (3) (a) (II)
    Thanks. I thought I remembered it somewhere, just couldn't it find it. Thanks for the supporting regs.

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    Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by AR-Tracker View Post

    yes 357 does have legal rounds and are effective.

    http://www.hornady.com/store/357-Mag...EVERevolution/

    there is another 165g carterige that works well too
    I am not talking about shooting a snubby. I have an 8" 357 and 44 to use for hunting purposly and it is Legal!
    And the regs say:
    Quote Originally Posted by DOW
    7. hanDguns
    a. Barrel must be minimum 4 inches long.
    b. Must use a minimum .24-caliber (6 mm) diameter expanding bullet.
    c. Shoulder stocks or attachments prohibited.
    d. Must use a cartridge or load that produces minimum energy of 550-ft.
    pounds at 50 yards as rated by manufacturer.
    While Hornady says, from an 8" bbl.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hornady

    Test Barrel (8 V") Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
    MUZZLE 50 100
    1440/644 1274/504 1143/406
    So DOW requires 550 ft-lbs at 50 yards, that ammo looks to be only 504 ft-lbs at 50 yards. Doesn't look legal.

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