ok guys I am a newbie here but understand I have been wheeling as long as I have been shooting(20+years). I think that the more hands the better. Makes the job a whole lot easier plus you get to meet new people that may have similar interests Jeeping and shooting for me are like peanut butter and jelly but like any hobby there are idiots that make us all look bad ironically wheelers have the exact same consequence as shooters do for the damage these idiots do, another place where you can't shoot or wheel. maybe its time to at least help each other out and maybe become aligned to fight the government in closing more areas where both hobby's can be enjoyed, strength in numbers you know? 4 Wheelers have become very good at dealing with the feds on land issues and come to think of it I can't think of any other hobby the feds consider to be on the wrong side that has had more success then the off road crowd in fighting uncle sam, the greenies or who ever.