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    Newbie here. I'm thinking about purchasing a .458 SOCOM upper to mount on my Colt M4 lower. I've seen uppers from Wilson Combat and Rock River Arms. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether the Wilson product (~$1,200) is better and/or worth the expense of the RRA upper (~$800)?

    Any guidance would be appreciated!

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    Get the RRA, use the cash that you save to get ammunition.
    If you make it out to this:
    http://www.ar-15.co/threads/72745-RA...!-December-9th!!!

    Find me, I might let you shoot a round or two out my RRA ( and only charge you $5, ) after I get it sighted in again.
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    As mentioned before - I been having a devil of a time finding suitable 458 slugs for reloading. - It may get so bad that I'll have to buy the BT-Sniper die set to swage 300gr JSP slugs from 40 S&W brass. Cause really - what else you going to do with 40 S&W brass, its too short to use in a real 10mm.

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    ETA: Slugs = Brass? If so, IM/e-mail me and I might be able to loan/trade/pay forward a few cases...


    Hopefully the 45-70 Rem bulk bullets will return someday.

    Not the cheapest, but specifically designed for the 458S and pure awesome: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/544...free-box-of-50



    A bit cheaper:
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/138...nose-box-of-50

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...vc=subv1138115

    http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...4B0&src=mbProd


    No clue about these folks but the 300GR Rem bulk projectile was kind of the standard/generic starting point: http://www.huntingtons.com/store/pro...roductid=20128
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    Quote Originally Posted by babirl View Post
    ETA: Slugs = Brass? If so, IM/e-mail me and I might be able to loan/trade/pay forward a few cases...


    Hopefully the 45-70 Rem bulk bullets will return someday.

    Not the cheapest, but specifically designed for the 458S and pure awesome: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/544...free-box-of-50



    A bit cheaper:
    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/138...nose-box-of-50

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...vc=subv1138115

    http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...4B0&src=mbProd


    No clue about these folks but the 300GR Rem bulk projectile was kind of the standard/generic starting point: http://www.huntingtons.com/store/pro...roductid=20128

    Sounds like he is talking bullets, though he refers to them as slugs.... And making .458 bullets out of .40 S&W brass ? I would think is a bit strange.

    Edit: Actually found an article on this, they are using ,45 ACP cases to make .458 SOCOM bullets..... Whodathunk....

    Author Topic: Making .458 bullets out of .45 ACP cases - 458 SOCOM ...


    458socomforums.com › ReloadingBullets
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    Sounds like he is talking bullets, though he refers to them as slugs.... And making .458 bullets out of .40 S&W brass ? I would think is a bit strange.

    Edit: Actually found an article on this, they are using ,45 ACP cases to make .458 SOCOM bullets..... Whodathunk....

    Author Topic: Making .458 bullets out of .45 ACP cases - 458 SOCOM ...




    458socomforums.com › ReloadingBullets

    Hmm, I missed that one... Interesting and good to know but thankfully I'm set for a bit.

    Also forgot to look for the Hornady 300GR bulk bullets but they're out there too. OP, I think there are some components for sale over on the 458S Forum.
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    So does the .458 use the same mags as 5.56? I'm guessing they just go in single stack instead of double if they do?

    RRA says they have them in stock, and I have been wanting to get a hunting caliber upper for hogs. Just not wanting one that will blow a hole out the other side. But, a big bore is interesting for me in other uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    So does the .458 use the same mags as 5.56? I'm guessing they just go in single stack instead of double if they do?

    RRA says they have them in stock, and I have been wanting to get a hunting caliber upper for hogs. Just not wanting one that will blow a hole out the other side. But, a big bore is interesting for me in other uses.
    No, they are not the same magazines, , there is a group of us wantiing MagPul to start making the special 10 round .458 SOCOM magazines so that after the mag limit goes into effect, we will still be able to buy them........
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    Quote Originally Posted by SideShow Bob View Post
    No, they are not the same magazines, , there is a group of us wantiing MagPul to start making the special 10 round .458 SOCOM magazines so that after the mag limit goes into effect, we will still be able to buy them........
    So I actually just ordered 15 ten round .458 SOCOM pmags before I even knew I wanted an upper in that chambering? Damn, I'm good. So wants to help me convince my wife I need an upper for this?

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    Try stopping at King Soopers on your way home and pick her up a cheap bouquet of flowers about once a week or so for a couple of months, with a night or two out for dinner & a movie. Then, when your upper ships, send her to an afternoon session of pampering at one of those spa / massage places.
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