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    Why didn't you post some of your thoughts along with this article.

    To me, NATO served a purpose, we protected millions from Soviet enslavement. I think those days are coming back but now Europe does not have the resources to take on any aggressive adversary and I'm not sure Europe is worth protecting any longer.

    Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, France, they all rely on Germany for their economic well being. All of these countries have rejected reducing their government spending and they cut everything except entitlements.

    Maybe it is time to let them sleep in the bed they've made for themselves. Germany will want something for all the largess they are bestowing on these other countries.

    Do you think Europe will help us when our economy finally collapses under the weight of entitlement spending?

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    There is a lot to be said about NATO, but stepping back I can sum it up by realizing that it, the EU and the G20 summit are test runs for a global government. It will fall apart when the Euro falls apart (I hope). They are based on the same idealist / globalist views and drive for the power and control of imaginary created wealth will harbor peace and guide the mindless peasants through their daily lives. The EU is showing crystal clear that a nation is only as strong as its weakest constituent population, and an collection of nations is no different. It must suck to be Germany right now bailing out several lazy ass countries again and again all while pulling you under. With any luck it will get bad enough globally for all of the organizations to lose all authority and influence without it getting so bad as to result in a total collapse. At one time they may have served a purpose, but that purpose was always a mask covering a drive for power and control over the resources of other nations. And as far as protecting other nations from the ravages of Russia and other communist nations, NATO did have an effect on slowing the spread of communism, but that was in its self interest. If there is a total global collapse, the only countries that will come out of it at all will be countries controlled through the absolute authoritarian governments like Russia and China. Police states will take what they want and no figure head letter writing organization will do a damn thing about it.

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    Returning medals eh? They were probably chaptered out of the Army

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    Quote Originally Posted by airborneranger View Post
    Returning medals eh? They were probably chaptered out of the Army
    What does 'chaptered' mean? I didn't serve in the military so I don't know all these terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    What does 'chaptered' mean? I didn't serve in the military so I don't know all these terms.
    Kicked out. I really did not have an opinion ,just thought alot of people here would
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    What does 'chaptered' mean? I didn't serve in the military so I don't know all these terms.
    It basically means that you were kicked-out. It could be for misconduct, being overweight, failing the physical fitness test, etc. The regulation covers each incident in a chapter. We just use the abbreviation "chaptered".

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    Someone beat me to it. I hear he is an expert on the subject

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    Med Board master. But they didn't have the Warrior Trans Unit so there were 9 of us with 300 shit bags yes a little bitterBet your happy they got rid of "don't ask,don't tell"ass
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    While I have no doubt there are vets who are against the war, the people shown there look more like the kind who would buy medals from the surplus store with the express purpose of taking them to Chicago to throw away.

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