Shipping a rifle

[MuzzleFlash]

You are no longer a resident of CA. You and your dad would be breaking the law all so you can save $20 and some time by not using a Colorado transfer dealer.

The ship to yourself thing is commonly used when you are traveling, but otherwise, no. You admitted that you transferred it to your dad as a gift and now you want him to transfer it back to you - not as a transaction between current CA residents, but as a transaction between residents of a different state that just happen to be related.

The law says that the sender has to declare the package as a firearm to the carrier and that it can contain no outside markings to indicate that it contains a firearm. Most carriers will ask if the recipient or sender is a FFL or if the shipment falls into one of the narrowly defined exceptions to the GCA. Right there, you've put your dad in a spot. If he declares it, then the carrier may ask about the FFL thing and given the exception you're using, why aren't you there to fill out the shipping documents? Note that he can't just drop it off at the local UPS/FedEx Kinkos store. The policy of both carriers requires that it be sent from one of their counter locations or picked up by one of their employees.

You're putting him in a bad situation of violating the GCA and technically committing mail fraud by making false statements to the carrier.

Can you get away with this? Almost certainly. But you asked if it was legal.

[Atrain]

Thanks for the posts guys...I'll check with a CA FFL to get accurate details. Hopefully, on my next trip to visit my parents, I can just ship it back to myself.

[HunterCO]

If you are going to go back and visit why not just take the rifle with you when you come back simple enough. [wink]

[Atrain]

The thought of taking a rifle through the airport with a wife and two small kids and dealing with the TSA goons sounds like a bad time.

[HunterCO]

It's not, You just put it in your check in baggage and declare it, Don't listen to the tin foil hat people.

[Obiwan]

Or wait until you are in CA and then ship it back to yourself here

That should be fine...

After all...if i (legally) ship the rifle to myself in another state I can certainly send it back to myself when I return

[Great-Kazoo]

The thought of taking a rifle through the airport with a wife and two small kids and dealing with the TSA goons sounds like a bad time.

you don't deal with any "goons" you get as far as the checkin counter. baggage checker ask you to open lockable case. they inspect to make sure there is no ammo. i use aopen bolt marker (yellow) to show an empty chamber. mags seperate area of case. you fill out paperwork they hand you a tag. you relock the case and then deal with TSA. it's too easy.

[PhL0aTeR]

^^ just like he said, get a hard sided gun case, LOCK it, declare it, etc.... you will have no problem.

The thought of taking a rifle through the airport with a wife and two small kids and dealing with the TSA goons sounds like a bad time.

PS

<<< TSA goon at COS :mrgreen:

[Atrain]

<<< TSA goon at COS

Wait..uh...I meant to say TSA cool...guys...

I think I see a ( _ )_ ) search in my future [shock2] squeel!

Thanks again for the info guys...see you soon Phloater :roll:

[KarlPMann]

I never knew you were one of the TSA goons, I mean ur eh, ummmm, a TSA employeee. :mrgreen: I know a lady that works with you. Jennifer. Tall blonde in early to mid 20's. Karl.