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    Chairman Emeritus (Retired Admin) Marlin's Avatar
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    Uninvited in my house, Two to the chest, one to the head. Going after the dog with a knife, Mag dump. Don't mess with my dog.
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    I'm not gonna be hard on the kid ... there was a time when all of us were newbies.


    Yes we were. We also know how to use the search function, FAQ's surf the web and IF a CCW holder, KNOW the basic C.R.S. for Use of Deadly Force. It's one of the most important pieces of paper ALL instructors should be giving their students as well as discuss in or during class.
    Can i quote it verbatim off the top of my head, no. Do i know it, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Uninvited in my house, Two to the chest, one to the head. Going after the dog with a knife, Mag dump. Don't mess with my dog.
    Totally! Don't mess with one of my dogs! However since I have 2 German Shepherds and a Rottweiler I doubt that the intruder would have the opportunity to get said knife before they were using him for a game of tug-of-war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDave View Post
    Totally! Don't mess with one of my dogs! However since I have 2 German Shepherds and a Rottweiler I doubt that the intruder would have the opportunity to get said knife before they were using him for a game of tug-of-war.

    You'd be surprised how docile a dog becomes when you provide them with chew toys.. I turned my neighbors snarling, barking Shepherd into a sweet playful fluff ball.. The only thing she does now is beg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    You'd be surprised how docile a dog becomes when you provide them with chew toys.. I turned my neighbors snarling, barking Shepherd into a sweet playful fluff ball.. The only thing she does now is beg.
    Now see that's why you need a aggressive breed...

    Like my Jack Corgi Mix Guido's (nickname). I have been tore up by a few dogs in the day but this little guy is pure nastyness when he gets ticked.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    You'd be surprised how docile a dog becomes when you provide them with chew toys.. I turned my neighbors snarling, barking Shepherd into a sweet playful fluff ball.. The only thing she does now is beg.
    This brings up a great point about dogs.

    Lots of folks think that their dog will suddenly turn into Protecto-Hound when danger rears.

    Most of these folks are wrong.

    Dogs, like humans, will, when threatened with danger, resort to their training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reno316 View Post
    This brings up a great point about dogs.

    Lots of folks think that their dog will suddenly turn into Protecto-Hound when danger rears.

    Most of these folks are wrong.

    Dogs, like humans, will, when threatened with danger, resort to their training.
    With dogs it is about training and instinct. I used to train Shutzhund (for the uninitiated that is the training that military and police dogs get) and a properly trained dog knoes when it should be in family mode, and then can flip a switch to protection mode when needed. Shepherds, Rotties, Dobermans generally do not need much training to encourage this instinct, if they are descendant from good working stock. They know if someone belongs or not and are excellent judges of character. I can recount many stories from my childhood, before I started training working dogs of Shepherd's we had that had no training that knew something was not right and protected the family with a single-minded purpose. Not to say that they are a catch all. A determined intruder can find a way around any obsticle you put in his way, bit generally if you have a pack of big naturally aggressive dogs they will go to easier pickings. BTW I had a buddy that in his youth was a criminal, did a lot of burglaries. He said the same thing about giving my dogs a steak. So, I challenged him to do it when I was not there. He said that he nearly was eaten by my boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDave View Post
    With dogs it is about training and instinct. I used to train Shutzhund (for the uninitiated that is the training that military and police dogs get) and a properly trained dog knoes when it should be in family mode, and then can flip a switch to protection mode when needed. Shepherds, Rotties, Dobermans generally do not need much training to encourage this instinct, if they are descendant from good working stock. They know if someone belongs or not and are excellent judges of character. I can recount many stories from my childhood, before I started training working dogs of Shepherd's we had that had no training that knew something was not right and protected the family with a single-minded purpose. Not to say that they are a catch all. A determined intruder can find a way around any obsticle you put in his way, bit generally if you have a pack of big naturally aggressive dogs they will go to easier pickings. BTW I had a buddy that in his youth was a criminal, did a lot of burglaries. He said the same thing about giving my dogs a steak. So, I challenged him to do it when I was not there. He said that he nearly was eaten by my boys.
    Excellent points, Dave. I especially liked this line: "generally do not need much training to encourage this instinct, if they are descendant from good working stock." I couldn't agree more... proper breeding makes a WORLD of difference.

    You and I both know there's a huge difference between show lines and working lines. Unfortunately, many people don't. They think "A German Shepherd Dog is a German Shepherd Dog is a German Shepherd Dog".

    (P.S., Know any good Mondio Ring trainers in the area?)

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    Sorry I am not hooked up with the Shutzhud community here I trained in northern California.

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