$69,300 put into your bank account

[theGinsue]

What? It wasn't his money and he spent it.

If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

[cstone]

If you get a product in the mail that you never ordered you get to keep it, why not $$ in your bank account?

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

[tmleadr03]

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

[stevelkinevil]

If FedEx delivers your next order (whatever very nice firearm or firearm accessory that might be) to the house down the street, would you like them to fix the mistake or have you eat the loss?

If your neighbor down the street receives something of value (we are not talking about samples and junk mail), should that neighbor do the right thing and return to sender, or enjoy their unforeseen bounty at some else's expense?

In this case, the bank was most likely acting in a delivery capacity for a wire transfer. They delivered the cash to the wrong recipient. When the bank went to the address (account holder) where they mistakenly delivered the cash to rectify their mistake, the account holder had misappropriated something of value that did not belong to him.

There would be both civil and criminal methods to collect the missing money, and like anyone who has been through the justice system can tell you, as slow as the criminal courts are, they are blazingly fast compared to a civil court process.

What this guy is charged with will have little resemblance to what he is eventually sentenced to in my opinion. He will likely be allowed to plead to a much lesser crime with a restitution agreement enforceable by the court. His earnings (as meager as they may be) will likely be garnished until he wins the lottery.

Honor is important to some people and a few corporations (but not many).

Someone once asked me to define the term - theft. Every jurisdiction has a similar way of defining the elements of theft, but I like to define it this way: "When you take something that doesn't belong to you, that is stealing. If you didn't bring it, you don't take it. If you find it, you should try to return it to it's rightful owner." Your opinion about the rightful owner is really not relevant, again IMO.

I realize there are situations where you can't return everything you find, but that doesn't relieve the finder from what I believe is a moral obligation to try.

Everyone over the age of 12 gets to make their own decisions on what they believe is right.

Be safe.

I agree as well, contrary to the way a couple of folks are trying to paint my feelings on this, for the 3rd time or more I agree what he did was wrong, My point is that banks yelling "thief" is the pot calling the kettle black.

[kidicarus13]

He knew it was not his AND he knew who to return it to and choose not to. F him.

[Skully]

Yeah friggin dum-arse.................like he thought he could get away with it, they wouldn't notice?

I had something similar ages ago. Deposited my hard earned check in the bank and as I was driving away I glanced at the deposit slip with bank balance. Slammed on my brakes so hard I nearly launched myself through the windshield.

I had $20,000+ more than what I was suppose to. Evil thoughts crossed through my head but under closer inspection I realized THEY deposit my check in the WRONG account. I quickly went back to the bank and got it corrected.

I think the bank should be held 50% liable for THEIR mistake. Like if you left the bank deposit bag on the coffee table and forgot it and it got taken. You fault for putting it the wrong place..............

[tmleadr03]

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Wow, you guys are unbelievable. The guy admits to knowing it was not his money and he spent it anyways. Does no one have any personal integrity anymore?

This thread is looking to be a good one to book mark so I know whom NOT to do business with.

These are the same people that think Piracy of music is ok... Yes, I am guilty of it too. But at the same time, now that I'm older, I've bought pretty much every song I ever pirated. Now it's all Pandora all the time though.

[StagLefty]

Nothing is free,especially the kind of money he got. Morally he was obligated to return it.