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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    If the trend continues the fed and japan will own all of our treasuries.
    If you owe the bank $5,000, they own you. If you owe the bank $5,000,000, you own the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    why are taxes needed at all? If the fed can print half of what the goverment spends, why cant they print it all?
    Control.
    Control a man's finances and you have a huge amount of control over the man. If they can't get you with anything else they can always send the IRS after you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    why are taxes needed at all? If the fed can print half of what the goverment spends, why cant they print it all?
    Control.
    Control a man's finances and you have a huge amount of control over the man. If they can't get you with anything else they can always send the IRS after you.
    Additionally it would cause the Ponzi Scheme that is fiat currency to collapse at a much faster rate.

    Its taken a century of fiat currency to get us to where we are ... and if we'd just slightly improve our fiscal responsibility and reduce regulation at the federal level we could see our fiat currency last another century. Eventually it will fail, but quantitative easing will hasten the collapse. Of course returning to real money and doing away with the Fed would probably make our currency last forever but that's just crazy talk .
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    why are taxes needed at all? If the fed can print half of what the goverment spends, why cant they print it all?
    Control.
    Control a man's finances and you have a huge amount of control over the man. If they can't get you with anything else they can always send the IRS after you.
    Additionally it would cause the Ponzi Scheme that is fiat currency to collapse at a much faster rate.

    Its taken a century of fiat currency to get us to where we are ... and if we'd just slightly improve our fiscal responsibility and reduce regulation at the federal level we could see our fiat currency last another century. Eventually it will fail, but quantitative easing and other central banking tricks will hasten the collapse.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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