Juggernaut Rogue Bullpup M1A Chassis System

[spyder]

Bullpup triggers usually suck WAY worse than stock AR triggers do ... and I doubt there's any way to make a bullpup as nice as the Timney on my AR ... although folk say the RFB trigger is actually pretty doggone good.

Most of the "convert you're rifle to a bullpup" stock kits suck even worse than factory bullpups. It's simple physics ... add a bunch of long levers and such and you just can't get as smooth, light and crisp a trigger as you can where the trigger is only a fraction of an inch from the sear.

Also part of the point of a .308 rifle is long range precision ... need a good trigger for that.


I love the idea of bullpup rifles ... I really do. But every one I've shot (couple of AK conversions, a Muzzelite Marlin and an AUG) all had mushy triggers that reminded me of a weed eater, not a rifle. If a bullpup conversion has a decent trigger I'm there.

First off, your Timney trigger, isn't that great. It's great for one you can buy, but it isn't that great.... Send it to BP and let him show you what I mean. Second, I don't know about Ak conversions, never had one, never worked on one. Your Aug however can have a great trigger. The trick to a bullpup is getting rid of the slop in all of the connections, closing some of the gaps, polishing, and just making sure the parts fit tight and move nicely. It can also be accomplished in the FS2000's. It's just time and money, or if you can do it yourself, time. Look at all the hand guns out there with trigger bars, same damn thing, just shorter. You can get an amazing trigger out of an Hk or Beretta. I'm not saying that they are as great as a well done 1911 trigger, or in a rifle's case, a nice 700 or something, what I'm saying is that you can make them pretty damn good with time, or money.

[Not_A_Llama]

It's just time and money, or if you can do it yourself, time. Look at all the hand guns out there with trigger bars, same damn thing, just shorter.

The crux of the matter, boiled down to two sentences. Anything is possible, even hard things, if you throw enough money at the problem.

[spyder]

The crux of the matter, boiled down to two sentences. Anything is possible, even hard things, if you throw enough money at the problem.

Very true unfortunately.

[Ronin13]

I love the concept behind bullpup weapons... I'm not too impressed with this one here. My favorite bullpups on earth are the IMI Tavor MTAR-21

and the L85A2... hey it works for the SAS!

[Sharpienads]

Here's another .308 Bullpup option.
mag changes look like a b*tch to do with bullpup platforms...

I've only shot one bullpup and I can't remember what it was, but mag changes were surprisingly easy and intuitive. Maybe Bailey Guns will chime in since I shot it with him, he might be able to tell you what the rifle was.

[battle_sight_zero]

I got the email this morning on this chassis. I have a couple socoms and they are my favorite handi rifles. Would like to see some reviews. Have to say the bull pup looks awesome but looks are not important as the the rifles intended purpose.

[Ridge]

I love the concept behind bullpup weapons... I'm not too impressed with this one here. My favorite bullpups on earth are the IMI Tavor MTAR-21

and the L85A2... hey it works for the SAS!

I'm looking forward to seeing the Tavor get released here. Charles Daly was working on it when they went under a couple years ago. But they've reorganized and are trying to do it again.

[Ronin13]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Tavor get released here. Charles Daly was working on it when they went under a couple years ago. But they've reorganized and are trying to do it again.

Me too! I love that weapon- I've been dying to get my hands on one since I first saw it in a report I read while in the Army. Israel sure does have some great weapons- the Uzi, the Galil, now this!

[islandermyk]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Tavor get released here. Charles Daly was working on it when they went under a couple years ago. But they've reorganized and are trying to do it again.

Me too! I love that weapon- I've been dying to get my hands on one since I first saw it in a report I read while in the Army. Israel sure does have some great weapons- the Uzi, the Galil, now this!

Could always drive up north... to Canada and grab a Tavor

[jmg8550]

Bullpup triggers usually suck WAY worse than stock AR triggers do ... and I doubt there's any way to make a bullpup as nice as the Timney on my AR ... although folk say the RFB trigger is actually pretty doggone good.

Most of the "convert you're rifle to a bullpup" stock kits suck even worse than factory bullpups. It's simple physics ... add a bunch of long levers and such and you just can't get as smooth, light and crisp a trigger as you can where the trigger is only a fraction of an inch from the sear.

Also part of the point of a .308 rifle is long range precision ... need a good trigger for that.


I love the idea of bullpup rifles ... I really do. But every one I've shot (couple of AK conversions, a Muzzelite Marlin and an AUG) all had mushy triggers that reminded me of a weed eater, not a rifle. If a bullpup conversion has a decent trigger I'm there.

308's also make very good battle rifles. That cartridge isn't just for long range.

To the OP... I say go for it. I have heard that the trigger in the Juggernaut is pretty good. The trigger in a stock M14/M1A/Garand is probably the best military rifle trigger ever made. At least you'll be starting with a good trigger.