The Jenny McCarthy Body Count

[bryjcom]

No need to be a dick..

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?"

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.

Dear google master: Did you even check your so called references? Some of your link are disabled, other are referencing flue vaccination clinic....

Lest look at some real stats, shall we: http://www.oecd.org/document/60/0,37..._1_1_1,00.html

FYI you will need to Download the excel file. You know the thing with a lot of number that you can't understand?

HEALTH CARE ACTIVITIES
Immunisation: Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, % of children immunised

2007 2008 2009 2010
Australia 91.9 91.8 91.7 92
Austria 85 83 83 ..
Belgium 98.7 98.7 97.9 ..
Canada .. .. .. ..
Chile 88.4 88.6 88.2 88.1
Czech Rep 99.6 99.6 99.3 ..
Denmark 87 .. 89 ..
Estonia 96.6 96.1 96 ..
Finland 97.4 97.4 99.3 ..
France 98 98 99 ..
Germany 97.3 96.8 .. ..
Greece 99 99 99 ..
Hungary 99.9 99.9 99.8 ..
Iceland 97 97 97 ..
Ireland 92 93 94 ..
Israel 95 .. .. ..
Italy 96.7 96.7 96.2 ..
Japan 93 96 96 ..
Korea 91 94 94 94
Luxembourg 96.5 .. .. ..
Mexico 98 94.6 99.1 ..
Netherlands94 94.5 95.2 95
New Zealand87 89 92 93
Norway 93 94 94 ..
Poland 99 .. 99 ..
Portugal 96.5 96.8 96.5 ..
Slovak Rep 99.4 99.4 99.2 99.1
Slovenia 97 97 96 ..
Spain 96.4 96.7 95.9 ..
Sweden 99 98 98 98
Switzerland 96 96 96 95
Turkey 96 96 96 ..
UK 94 94.6 95 ..
USA 84.5 84.6 83.9 ..

[bryjcom]

We just had our daughter tested for allergies. She has had a very difficult time dealing with her emotions and her behavior and we're at our witts end. Enviromental pollens and weeds came back negative, but when it came to yeast, dairy, and gluten, she came back very positive.. The doctor we're seeing is how a doctor should be IMHO. Wants to treat the cause and not the symptom, unlike so many other doctors do.

I've heard stories of kids with ADHD and other similar symptoms completely transforming due to diet change.

In my opinion its a crime what the medical establishment has been doing to our kids with all the "medicines" that they subscribe to them. I've seen it with kids growing up and have had it done to me personally...

My son is high functioning autistic; we've done a huge amount of research about it. Haven't really found any reputable connection regarding the vaccines, but have found some info regarding gluten and dairy free diets helping some people with autism or autistic symptoms. Part of it has something to do with what happens in some people's digestive tract with the gluten in the wheat and casein in the milk. A friend of my wife has a brother who had this; the mother did the extreme gluten/casein free diet and saw remarkable results. It may not be actual autism that this is affecting; I remember reading something about these foods causing autism-like symptoms in some people. But for those who have children with autism, anything's worth checking out. It never hurts to do the research.

Regarding vaccines; adverse reactions are possible. I'm fortunate to not have had a lasting bad reaction to any; I've had a couple of short term ones though. And the military has given me about every shot I can imagine, and a few I couldn't! Even rabies...

[spyder]

Diet can change a bunch. The only thing that is bad about a drastic change in diet, is you realize that the great food you are used to, is like crack.... In my case anyway, kinda my wife's also.

[bryjcom]

Diet can change a bunch. The only thing that is bad about a drastic change in diet, is you realize that the great food you are used to, is like crack.... In my case anyway, kinda my wife's also.

Its weird you use the "crack" analogy. My daughter craves milk and breads. Doctor said that's probably what she's allergic to. He said its the craziest thing that kids will crave the very thing that is making them sick. Results came back and he was right.

[sully3acr]

I crave Jenny...Like "crack".............Sully

[Fmedges]

I'm "required" to get one every year since I'm in the military, but manage to sneak out of it about half the time. I had to get H1N1 back in late 2009 (or maybe it was early 2010) and I almost got in trouble for trying to refuse it (something about refusing a lawful order or some crap like that). I personally don't take any medications unless I absolutely have to, especially antibiotics.



Is that the one where it's tetanus and some other vaccine mixed together? I got one like that earlier this year. Made my arm hurt like a mofo.

My personal favorite is the anthrax vaccine. Eff that.

in '03 I got smallpox, flu, tetanus and the anthrax shot. Weeeee

[ruthabagah]

No need to be a dick..

Well coming from you I take that as a compliment...

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?"

some comment on this later

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

Because those are the only one we all have in common, not the total of inoculation per individual/ per country... again, you can't read numbers.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

Yep that's were you contradict yourself from your previous post and that;s were the utmost stupidity of your arguments start to surface.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.[/QUOTE]

Tinfoil hat theory: Because of people like you healthy kids die from the whooping cough when it could have been avoided!

The other problem, and it's is not just your problem is that because you choose not to vaccine your kids you put ALL of us at risk. How come? Mutation and herd protection. The way virus and immunology works is that we destroy the potential for viruses to re produce, and develop in healthy subject so that the whole group get protected. By creating gap in the protection by using dumb unfounded reason to not vaccinate healthy subject only weaken the whole defense mechanism.

Did you know that in the US 38.000 people die each year of the flu? That another 223.000 will have to be hospitalized and that over a million will visit an emergency room? The flu is just an example, I am not advocating that anybody gets vaccinated. But it is a potent virus and a shows how fast a pandemic could spread without proper vaccination.

[DOC]

Yeah, a classic case of do as I say not as I do.

You spelled, "look at my big boobs". Wrong.

[bryjcom]

No need to be a dick..

Well coming from you I take that as a compliment...

I downloaded the excel file.. You know the "thing with a lot of number that I can't understand?"

some comment on this later

The numbers you quoted only show the pecentages of kids getting only "Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis". Three vaccines.. That's it. Doesn't show total amount of vaccinations that the children are getting.

Because those are the only one we all have in common, not the total of inoculation per individual/ per country... again, you can't read numbers.

I looked at the measles vaccination percentages as well, and the U.S is at 90% while the rest of the countries seem to be around the 94-95%, with some being lower. Again not really all that much more than the U.S and again where only talking about 1 vaccine here.

Yep that's were you contradict yourself from your previous post and that;s were the utmost stupidity of your arguments start to surface.

I'm going to say it again. I'm not saying 100% positive that vaccines cause autism rates to go up. Just saying that its certainly possible. I heard a theory that its not that they are given vaccinations, but WHEN IT IS GIVEN to the child in relation to brain and body development that could be causing the increased autism rate.

Tinfoil hat theory: Because of people like you healthy kids die from the whooping cough when it could have been avoided!

The other problem, and it's is not just your problem is that because you choose not to vaccine your kids you put ALL of us at risk. How come? Mutation and herd protection. The way virus and immunology works is that we destroy the potential for viruses to re produce, and develop in healthy subject so that the whole group get protected. By creating gap in the protection by using dumb unfounded reason to not vaccinate healthy subject only weaken the whole defense mechanism.

Did you know that in the US 38.000 people die each year of the flu? That another 223.000 will have to be hospitalized and that over a million will visit an emergency room? The flu is just an example, I am not advocating that anybody gets vaccinated. But it is a potent virus and a shows how fast a pandemic could spread without proper vaccination.

You know.... Since you continue to talk to me in a condescending way, I'm going to push it again.

Prove your point that the U.S is not one of the most vaccinated countries in the world.

When I asked for your proof you quoted and showed a link that only proves Europe vaccinates more on only 4 vaccines.

Show me how many vaccines the rest of the world takes as compared to the U.S

If its in that download and I missed it, then enlighten me please.



And for the record my 3 children are 100% up to date on all vaccines.....

[ruthabagah]

If its in that download and I missed it, then enlighten me please.

You finally acknowledge that you are not smart enough to read AND understand the documents that were provided to you. Good. My point.