Well I went to back to the tanner show in Denver to get try to get my money back. The vender looked at the mount he sold me and the info I had printed from the thread in my previous post. He gave me a full refund. I'm glad he didnt give me a hard time about it. I'm still not too sure if he didnt know it was a fake. who knows... Unfortunately for the other buyers, he said he already sold the other two mounts...