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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    We elected the people who came up with it, and continue to uphold it. If we didn't think they knew what they were doing then we should have checked the other box on election day (America collectively).
    yup............unfortunately the damage to this once great Republic has already happened and it would take a massive change in thinking and action on a majority of the populace. There is way to many sheep that will follow what ever is popular on TV and believe everything they are told.

    One of the steps in the book "Dictatorship for Dummies" ...............control "knowledge."

    History does and will repeat itself...............
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenup View Post
    Keep it civil guys.
    Does that mean no teaming up and no forced entry?
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    OK...I concede. coloccw is the end all to firearm tactics. I should've known not to argue with the ultimate "operator".

    But I see he never provided a source to his assertion that teaching paramilitary training is illegal per Colorado statutes. But he "knows" it's there. That's good enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Does that mean no teaming up and no forced entry?
    lol,You're sick.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Here's your training...

    1) clear a room= look EVERYWHERE except the closet (cause thats where monsters are
    2) if necessary to breach door: twist the door handle/knob, push or pull to open , unless your a real bad ass then you will kick the crap out of every door in your house
    fixed it

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    Back on topic. As far as training goes it seems they where watching videos. From the article is seems they didn't even take a training class.

    "According to police, Faella's group watched videos training them in fighting and the use of AK-47s and other weapons at the compound, which the affidavit said is ringed with barbed wire and protected by pit bulls and firing positions facing the driveway."

    After reading this article there seems to be a fine line here. Intent I would choose as a key word. A lot of what there were doing are things I would bet a lot of us do.

    "The group was making body armor and sniper suits and stocking up on supplies in preparation"

    How many here have a watched Magpul videos, own a gillie suit, body armor and have supplies ready for the end of days? Hell I bet any one of us could be twisted by the media and police to appear just a crazy as these nut jobs.

    About being taught "tactics" every class I've taken it has been mentioned that it was a weapons manipulation class and not a tactics class. So much so that I have wondered why they go out of their way to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Please let me know what schools are teaching "active shooter" to non sworn officers? I've never seen one that was worth a damn.
    Gunsite has many civilian classes teaching team tactics as well as multiple classes that spend time in the shoot house and force-on-force tactical training for pistol, carbine, rifle and shotgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Gunsite has many civilian classes teaching team tactics as well as multiple classes that spend time in the shoot house and force-on-force tactical training for pistol, carbine, rifle and shotgun.
    Nothing wrong with force on force. In fact, I highly recommend it for everyone who carries. THe tactics they are teaching are again, defensive in nature. How to respond to an attack whe you have no other option. They are not offering a "shoothouse" course or similar to civilians.

    There is nothing wrong with knowing or wanting to learn this stuff; just man up and enlist. You don't get to learn neurosurgery without going to med school... Too many people whine on the internet about not getting to learn the cool stuff when they can't get off the couch and put the time in like everyone else had to. I suppose their free training vouchers should come in the mail with thier food stamps too. Just because you consume oxygen doesn't mean you're entitled to have everything GIVEN to you. Some things you have to earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    There is nothing wrong with knowing or wanting to learn this stuff; just man up and enlist.
    I'm too old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    They are not offering a "shoothouse" course or similar to civilians.
    I think you better look again. Many of their civilian courses include time in their Fun House including 250 pistol, 350 pistol, Team tactics 4 Two, 260 shotgun, carbine classes and others..

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