Is paramilitary training illegal?

[hollohas]

Wasn't there just a case a little while back where a guy heard a mans voice coming form his 12 year old daughters room, and when he went to open the door it was locked? Turns out there was an armed serial rapist in the room with his daughter. I can see justification for some of the techniques in question.

According to coloccw only LEO or .mil need to breech doors, so if that happens just wait until he gets there to do it for you.

[Sharpienads]

According to coloccw only LEO or .mil need to breech doors, so if that happens just wait until he gets there to do it for you.

Correct. You're also allowed by CO law to use force up to and including deadly force in defense of a third person, but only if there aren't any walls, fences, doors, etc. in between you and that third person. Because then you would practicing self offense, not self defense, and that, as we all now know, is illegal.

[spqrzilla]

The difference is in sub part 3 of that section. While training for DEFENSE of person/property is justifed, going into a building shooting is not in your defense. Entry tactics are OFFENSIVE in nature and are not justified. Any law student could easily argue that you had other options available to you and show you as the agressor.

Subpart 3 is not a restriction on what kind of training you can have. Its an explicit carve out from the acts forbidden in (1) and (2).

Addition: you need some government sponsored authority to attend this training ie...you have to have a need for it. Everyday CCW'er doesn't need to know door breaching techniques, cops = yes. There is a reason I have to have to be vetted to attend the training I do. No grandmas with a snub nose .38 there and also no haji's wanting to use that knowledge against us.

Those requirements do not appear in CRS.

I've illustrated what Colorado statutes say. One could go to the other state laws that cover this subject. You are going to find that most of them will include the intent to commit a crime element because First Amendment protections of speech will protect anyone who wishes to "teach" tactics of any kind.

That the reputable shooting schools do not teach SWAT or counter-terror dynamic entry and other such tactics to civilians is of course their choice, their ethics, and obviously a poor business practice, and I'm not commenting upon that. The assertion that it would be, without qualification, illegal for them to do so is one that I'd say is untrue.

Now obviously, if one found a school that purported to teach such to civilians ... well, I'm pretty sure that in no time at all, you would be straddling a speed bag and beating it to death with a loaded gun, craning your neck in some weird 270 degree scanning motion and other silly things....

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According to coloccw only LEO or .mil need to breech doors, so if that happens just wait until he gets there to do it for you.

Ballistic breaching is not an option in that case and would be considered negligence. If it's your house...go get the damn key.

[pickenup]

I believe this thread has gone full retard.

I agree.