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    I originally read this post but other than the news article about a extreme racist group taking their ability to voice their opinions to the next level and harming/attempting to harm others. I had nothing really to ad until now. There seems to be a huge debate going over what a person can be taught.

    I have a very simple statement to this whole thing.

    The most powerful weapon you have at your disposal is your mind.

    Therefore "Knowledge = power"

    We already allow those in power try and tell how to live, if we allow them to tell us what we can learn we need to fight harder.

    I am sorry, but there is no CRIME in learning and increasing your knowledge, what you choose to do with it can be. There should be no segregation of knowledge/education between government and the general population.

    I will learn everything I can.......................even if it is paramilitary training.


    Remember a very wise statement: "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."





    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    I originally read this post but other than the news article about a extreme racist group taking their ability to voice their opinions to the next level and harming/attempting to harm others. I had nothing really to ad until now. There seems to be a huge debate going over what a person can be taught.

    I have a very simple statement to this whole thing.

    The most powerful weapon you have at your disposal is your mind.

    Therefore "Knowledge = power"

    We already allow those in power try and tells how to live, if we allow them to tell us what we can learn we need to fight harder.

    I am sorry, but there is no CRIME in learning and increasing your knowledge, what you choose to do with it can be. There should be no segregation of knowledge between government and the general population.

    I will learn everything I can.......................even if it is paramilitary training.


    Remember a very wise statement: "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."
    so true sir fully agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Really?

    Pure ignorance.
    Nope. Even you Tac-P's don't run drills. Your weapon is your radio, not your trigger finger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Nope. Even you Tac-P's don't run drills. Your weapon is your radio, not your trigger finger.
    Ok, you obviously know more about what the career field does than I do, so I won't argue with you.
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    Girlscouts? Hmmm, I don't know... I think it's kinda dangerous to teach young girls self esteem and leadership skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    I am sorry, but there is no CRIME in learning and increasing your knowledge, what you choose to do with it can be. There should be no segregation of knowledge/education between government and the general population.


    No, some things you don't need to know.

    I presume that you would be OK with every US born, Al Quaeda member learning EOD techniques to use for better IEDs, or knowing our entry tactics to set up better ambushes in houses for our guys overseas? There has to be a line drawn somewhere, and without a better vetting process, the current line is based upon having the authority and need to know the information. Even Colo. Const. Art. II, Section 13 states
    "The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;..."

    Again, if you don't NEED to know and don't have authority to use it, don't worry about it.

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    Anybody who wants to read up on basic room clearing and other various urban operations can read FM 3-06.11 or SH 21-76. Or use Google and find a reputable source.
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    Girlscouts? Hmmm, I don't know... I think it's kinda dangerous to teach young girls self esteem and leadership skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    No, some things you don't need to know.

    I presume that you would be OK with every US born, Al Quaeda member learning EOD techniques to use for better IEDs, or knowing our entry tactics to set up better ambushes in houses for our guys overseas? There has to be a line drawn somewhere, and without a better vetting process, the current line is based upon having the authority and need to know the information. Even Colo. Const. Art. II, Section 13 states
    "The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;..."

    Again, if you don't NEED to know and don't have authority to use it, don't worry about it.
    Fear is the mind killer, the what if's will always be there but if i want to learn something and you tell me i dont need to know i will figure it out anyway. WHO should determine what is knowledge what is group information and what is restricted. There is the crux..........
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    Anybody who wants to read up on basic room clearing and other various urban operations can read FM 3-06.11 or SH 21-76. Or use Google and find a reputable source.
    Nothing stopping anyone from doing that...kind of like learning how to f*ck by watching porn though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    Again WHO should determine what is knowledge what is group information and what is restricted. There is the crux..........
    We elected th people who came up with it, and continue to uphold it. If we didn't think they knew what they were doing then we should have checked the other box on election day (America collectively).

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    Keep it civil guys.

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