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    Default Cane gun legality...

    So, I just got a made from Sears bolt action Ranger 35 .22 short, long and long rifle.
    I notice that when I unscrew the stock from it, it is a self sustained rifle.(kinda) Basically everything is mounted to the barrel so you can fire it completely without the stock. (i.e. trigger, sites and bolt... obviously)

    Now for the sake of the novelty of, it I could make a wood "cane" stock for it considering currently without the stock the barrel is 24" from breach to end and the overall length is just over 28" so it seems its a legal rifle as is.

    So my question is as long as I'm not a moron carrying it around with me in public and treat it as tho its a rifle and nothing else, there should be no problems correct?

    Gun without stock
    Last edited by Fiver2; 06-04-2012 at 15:25. Reason: added pic

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    A cane gun is regulated as an AOW or "Any Other Weapon" in the NFA.

    You will have to complete a form 1, get CLEO signature (or go trust/LLC) and wait for the tax stamp before manufacturing the cane gun.

    AOWs are cheaper to transfer between owners... only $5.00 instead of $200.00. Unfortunately, MANUFACTURE of an AOW is still the normal $200.00.

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    Off topic my apologies.

    Why bother with the gun?

    www.canemasters.com

    A hickory cane has many advantages as a self defense tool over a firearm when less than lethal force is appropriate. A hickory cane is allowed in all state and federal facilities and on planes. It is also a great tool for rattlesnakes as well as preventing fall down go boom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayock View Post
    A cane gun is regulated as an AOW or "Any Other Weapon" in the NFA.

    You will have to complete a form 1, get CLEO signature (or go trust/LLC) and wait for the tax stamp before manufacturing the cane gun.

    AOWs are cheaper to transfer between owners... only $5.00 instead of $200.00. Unfortunately, MANUFACTURE of an AOW is still the normal $200.00.
    But what makes it a "cane"?
    As far as i can tell its a rifle with a silly stock.

    From what ive gathered is, the only reason you would need a tax stamp is if it were a "any other weapon" or if it was a SBR. Since its not a SBR and as long as i dont change the way the gun shoots or try to hide the mechanism then it doesnt need a tax stamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    Off topic my apologies.

    Why bother with the gun?

    www.canemasters.com
    A hickory cane has many advantages as a self defense tool over a firearm when less than lethal force is appropriate. A hickory cane is allowed in all state and federal facilities and on planes. It is also a great tool for rattlesnakes as well as preventing fall down go boom!
    Simply novelty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiver2 View Post
    But what makes it a "cane"?
    As far as i can tell its a rifle with a silly stock.

    From what ive gathered is, the only reason you would need a tax stamp is if it were a "any other weapon" or if it was a SBR. Since its not a SBR and as long as i dont change the way the gun shoots or try to hide the mechanism then it doesnt need a tax stamp.
    Perhaps, but I'd say you are in a grey area at best. I might recommend writing to the BATFE FTB, and get an opinion letter to cover your butt before you make such a device. Since the ATF's definition of "AOW" explicitly includes the term "cane gun", I wouldn't risk it myself. It looks like a cane, and it is a gun, therefore "cane gun" a prosecutor may reason.

    You can write to:

    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
    Firearms Technology Branch
    244 Needy Road
    Martinsburg, West Virginia 25405 USA
    Last edited by J; 06-04-2012 at 19:06.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiver2 View Post
    But what makes it a "cane"?
    As far as i can tell its a rifle with a silly stock.

    From what ive gathered is, the only reason you would need a tax stamp is if it were a "any other weapon" or if it was a SBR. Since its not a SBR and as long as i dont change the way the gun shoots or try to hide the mechanism then it doesnt need a tax stamp.
    Bubba like cane gun makers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    If you do it and go to prison, can I have your stuff?
    Including the "cane gun" ???
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