Aurora PD

[DSull]

The Supreme Court has ruled that you may be detained by Police on a traffic stop for a minor vehicle infraction for the amount of time it takes to write a ticket. Searches of the vehicle w/o probable cause have to be with consent or otherwise a warrant. You can refuse a search of your vehicle and if the detention is lengthy you may have a case of your 4th amendment rights being violated. It could also lead to a nice big fat ticket too.

[JoeT]

I do hope that some people at that precinct are held accountable for infringing on those peoples 4th amendment rights.

You're kidding, right? The chief was on the news this morning proud of what they did.

[RCCrawler]

So, what happens in a situation where a cop wants to search your car and you refuse without a warrant?

I tried this once in High School. I was driving and pulled up to my girlfriends house, just as I was getting out of the car a cop flew around the corner jumped out of the his car and ordered me at gunpoint to follow his commands.

He walked me back, patted me down then made me sit on the curb. He said someone called and reported that I was driving around pointing a gun at people. I have no idea where that came from, I didn't even own a gun at the time.

He said he needed to search my car, and I told him no. He told me he could call a judge and get a warrant, I told him that would be fine, and I remained seated on the curb. He went back to his car and was radioing back and forth a while, then came out and asked me again, I gave him the same answer.

This process went on for nearly 2 hours, every 20 minutes or so he'd come back out and pressure me.

Finally after about 2 hours, and knowing my girlfriends parents would be home soon I gave into him. He spent probably 30 minutes tearing my car apart to find nothing, which royally pissed him off.

In the end he got in his car and left, I got no ticket, nothing.

[Uberjager]

I saw pictures of this going down. There were at least a dozen or so cops, with long guns and a few others with pistols drawn, surrounding the vehicle, and detaining the people. The "suspects" were cuffed and left sitting on a sidewalk not too far from the intersection.

[JohnTRourke]

You're kidding, right? The chief was on the news this morning proud of what they did.

I wonder if PD's ass hurts when they wipe it with the constitution.

Claire Wolfe was wrong. :-(

[Ronin13]

I tried this once in High School. I was driving and pulled up to my girlfriends house, just as I was getting out of the car a cop flew around the corner jumped out of the his car and ordered me at gunpoint to follow his commands.

He walked me back, patted me down then made me sit on the curb. He said someone called and reported that I was driving around pointing a gun at people. I have no idea where that came from, I didn't even own a gun at the time.

He said he needed to search my car, and I told him no. He told me he could call a judge and get a warrant, I told him that would be fine, and I remained seated on the curb. He went back to his car and was radioing back and forth a while, then came out and asked me again, I gave him the same answer.

This process went on for nearly 2 hours, every 20 minutes or so he'd come back out and pressure me.

Finally after about 2 hours, and knowing my girlfriends parents would be home soon I gave into him. He spent probably 30 minutes tearing my car apart to find nothing, which royally pissed him off.

In the end he got in his car and left, I got no ticket, nothing.

Knowing what I know now, I'd stick to my guns and if he detained me for that long I'd be calling someone... then submitting a very nicely worded written complaint to his superiors and local government.

[DavieD55]

When you step out of your vehicle lock your doors, dont give concent to search do not answer any questions, and dont say another word. Consult your attorney.

[RCCrawler]

Knowing what I know now, I'd stick to my guns and if he detained me for that long I'd be calling someone... then submitting a very nicely worded written complaint to his superiors and local government.

Yea, things are different now then they were. I was young and dumb at the time and didn't want to get busted with at my girlfriends house, mid afternoon when we were supposed to be in school. So after 2 hours, and with her parents on their way home I had to give in.

[Ronin13]

Yea, things are different now then they were. I was young and dumb at the time and didn't want to get busted with at my girlfriends house, mid afternoon when we were supposed to be in school. So after 2 hours, and with her parents on their way home I had to give in.

Think how differently our youth would have been... if I knew then what I know now... Well let's just say there were a few traffic stops that would have gone down differently when I was a kid.

[CO303]

The problem is that if one of the lawful citizens was legally carrying or had weapons in their car, they would have been arrested. They would have had their property seized and they would have to spend a lot of money to retrieve they're property. That would be the best case.