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    Quote Originally Posted by trot View Post
    Haven't read the entire thread.

    But I use this exact scenario when I teach carry classes, when I go over exercise of rights.

    In the situation, if you didn't consent, you would be harassed, but well trained P.D. will eventually let you go. If they didn't....
    42 U.S.C. 1983! When they DIDN'T find any evidence of bank robbery, the department would be really sweating if you got a good attorney on it.

    "Escape of a Fleeing felon" wouldn't hold up in the situation. If someone robs a bank, and they see them bust down the door of a house the can pursue it. If they detain 19 cars, well, self defeating argument there. Even if one is a felon, they already have proven 18 are not. So, less than 5% probable chance of them being a fleeing felon? Not good odds for a department. Win for rights violation if that line was crossed.
    But the premise was that the GPS device in the bank bank gave them the responding officers a location within 50 feet so they knew it was one of those vehicles at the intersection. They did find the suspect in the group of cars and all the people were released within 15 minutes of the apprehension. The 2 hour time was total time from the initial stop to the release of last car.

    No one likes their freedom restricted, I know I don't. But no one likes being robbed at gun point either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger353 View Post
    But the premise was that the GPS device in the bank bank gave them the responding officers a location within 50 feet so they knew it was one of those vehicles at the intersection. They did find the suspect in the group of cars and all the people were released within 15 minutes of the apprehension. The 2 hour time was total time from the initial stop to the release of last car.

    No one likes their freedom restricted, I know I don't. But no one likes being robbed at gun point either.
    No one should have guns pointed at their kids, medical needs ignored or constitutional rights ignored just because the police are "just following orders!" Oh, excuse me, I mean dept policy. What you just stated comes down to giving up our freedom and rights for security.....and that the ends justify the means. I swear I have heard somebody else make statements about these issues. It must have been somebody a LONG time ago.
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