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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger353 View Post
    But the premise was that the GPS device in the bank bank gave them the responding officers a location within 50 feet so they knew it was one of those vehicles at the intersection. They did find the suspect in the group of cars and all the people were released within 15 minutes of the apprehension. The 2 hour time was total time from the initial stop to the release of last car.

    No one likes their freedom restricted, I know I don't. But no one likes being robbed at gun point either.
    No one should have guns pointed at their kids, medical needs ignored or constitutional rights ignored just because the police are "just following orders!" Oh, excuse me, I mean dept policy. What you just stated comes down to giving up our freedom and rights for security.....and that the ends justify the means. I swear I have heard somebody else make statements about these issues. It must have been somebody a LONG time ago.
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    The biggest issue here is that the PD CREATED the exigent circumstances by not having the correct equipment to even locate the gps beacon.
    They waited HOURS for the FBI to bring the equipment before they could pinpoint the beacon.

    Because they failed to be prepared to even respond correctly to a 'gps beacon situation', I should have my rights suspended and sit on a curb, cuffed, with a muzzle in my face?

    Had they waited, or even had the equipment they needed, there would have been no need for vehicles to be unlawfully searched.
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    There was NO reason for this, several other options were available. Such as follow the beacon in a unmarked unit until the car is alone? I missed BEING at that intersection by about 20 min.

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    Ok, so Aurora PD had a fix on this beacon to within say, 50 meters. Why couldn't they just track the beacon for another 10 minutes, and figure out which car was carrying it? Did it not occur to anyone involved that the perp might figure out he was trapped in their little intersection dragnet, and decide that the best way out was either to open fire, or take an innocent party hostage? It would seem to this Monday Morning Quarterback that the police created a potentially volatile situation by funneling a known armed suspect into a situation with 18 non-combatants, in an enclosed(but not secured) perimeter. If they were indeed following a GPS signal, they should have been able to discreetly track it until the subject was in a more isolated situation. I pay taxes in Aurora, but I hope they win this lawsuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Ok, so Aurora PD had a fix on this beacon to within say, 50 meters. Why couldn't they just track the beacon for another 10 minutes, and figure out which car was carrying it? Did it not occur to anyone involved that the perp might figure out he was trapped in their little intersection dragnet, and decide that the best way out was either to open fire, or take an innocent party hostage? It would seem to this Monday Morning Quarterback that the police created a potentially volatile situation by funneling a known armed suspect into a situation with 18 non-combatants, in an enclosed(but not secured) perimeter. If they were indeed following a GPS signal, they should have been able to discreetly track it until the subject was in a more isolated situation. I pay taxes in Aurora, but I hope they win this lawsuit.
    Same here Tfog. Can you imagine if one of those poor people happened to be CCW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Ok, so Aurora PD had a fix on this beacon to within say, 50 meters. Why couldn't they just track the beacon for another 10 minutes, and figure out which car was carrying it? Did it not occur to anyone involved that the perp might figure out he was trapped in their little intersection dragnet, and decide that the best way out was either to open fire, or take an innocent party hostage? It would seem to this Monday Morning Quarterback that the police created a potentially volatile situation by funneling a known armed suspect into a situation with 18 non-combatants, in an enclosed(but not secured) perimeter. If they were indeed following a GPS signal, they should have been able to discreetly track it until the subject was in a more isolated situation. I pay taxes in Aurora, but I hope they win this lawsuit.
    This!
    I was think about that this morning, did APD do everything to ensure public safety? I think not. They could have potentially put more at risk by going the route they did had the robber decided he didn't want to give up without a fight.
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