How would you react?

[mcantar18c]

That's what backup weapons are for, aren't they?

No. That's what combatives are for. Hand to hand.
I mean, if you really want to test out the speed of your draw (on a BUG, no less) against the speed of the other guys trigger finger on an already drawn gun, go ahead, but I wouldn't reccomend it.
Being an "armed citizen" doesn't simply mean one who carries a firearm. It's someone who's armed with the ability, skill, and willingness to fight in defense of ___. The tool you use... be it a gun, a knife, a screwdriver, or your hands... makes no difference, and you need to be proficient in all of it.
It irritates the hell out of me when I see guys talking about how they always carry their badass .45 and nothing can stop them, yet wouldn't know what to do if their gun hand was busy holding off a knife or if you got close and started throwing elbows.

Sorry for the tangent/mini rant

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

^^^^. I agree 100%

[Ronin13]

^^^^. I agree 100%

As do I!

[Chad4000]

We've got some bad mother fvckers here on this web board. There's a lot of I woulda beat the shit out him remarks here. You have no idea the background of this guy, yet you assume you woulda van dammed his ass. There's 60-70 year old men and women that would choked you out before you even had an opportunity to blink. Ever hear of Helio Gracie? Moral of what I'm saying never under estimate who your looking at or dealing with. Whether they are 6'8" or 5'2". Moral of the story I believe is if you're going to open carry you damn well better be prepared to be targetted first, never be too comfortable with people you don't know, and always expect the unexpected. Also, don't think your firearm is going to be the only thing to save your life. Train with your firearms, but also train in hand to hand situations. One last thing - it doesn't matter how big and bad you think you are, trust me there's someone bigger and badder. Btw if this offends any of you and hurts your feelings, chances are you aren't beating anyone's ass.

while I understand what you are saying.. i agree with Ronin too. this guy was trying to prove a point. he shouldnt just assume that whoever he does this to is going to be cool with it.... chances are he wasnt a UFC fighter either. those guys dont pull other peoples weapons out of their holsters.

not to mention,,, i wouldnt just beat the buy for the sake of it. I would assume he had very bad intentions and not the fact that he was trying to prove a point. full on adrenaline etc.

somebody else said it, but the guy is lucky one of the shop guys didnt kill him....

[anomad]

I always think "gun grab" when I see poorly executed open carry. Its amazing how close some people will let you get up behind their holster. Most citizens I see don't use a retention holster.

What's the saying about being prepared to kill someone that isn't afraid to die? A person that seriously grabs your gun probably isn't afraid to die.

[Ronin13]

I always think "gun grab" when I see poorly executed open carry. Its amazing how close some people will let you get up behind their holster. Most citizens I see don't use a retention holster.

What's the saying about being prepared to kill someone that isn't afraid to die? A person that seriously grabs your gun probably isn't afraid to die.

Yes, stupidity usually comes without fear...

[ChadAmberg]

So, does it make a difference that they were in a gun store? I mean, you'd think that would be one of the safest places to be.

[WETWRKS]

So, does it make a difference that they were in a gun store? I mean, you'd think that would be one of the safest places to be.

There should have been at least 2guns pointed in his direction. The 2on duty employees. As the place was fairly full I would think a half dozen would be in order. My first thought in that citation would be mass shooting and stopping the bad guy.

[mcsurveyer1361]

I never really payed to much attention to the martial arts while in the Corps but that lesson i do recall very well other the bayonet and rifle stuff along with basics is dealing with someone who has a hand gun to you. I would think being in a gun store that ones gaurd would be relaxed but regaurdless if someone took my piece i would have punched him in the adams apple if i wasnt fast enough to get my gun back.

[Zundfolge]

There should have been at least 2guns pointed in his direction. The 2on duty employees. As the place was fairly full I would think a half dozen would be in order. My first thought in that citation would be mass shooting and stopping the bad guy.

My guess is that the old guy is a regular at the gun shop.

So the employees were probably not thinking "OMG There's about to be a mass shooting!" they were probably thinking "What the hell is Earl doin'?" Or even more likely "Oh brother, here goes Earl again."