Big Army: Soldiers Free to Use PMAGs

[asmo]

There as been some discussion on this as of late - so I figured people would want the latest.

http://kitup.military.com/2012/06/bi...ree-pmags.html

Army officials at the Pentagon acknowledged yesterday that TACOM sent the wrong message to the field in April when it declared that polymer magazines, such as the PMAG, made by Magpul Industries Corp., were not on the authorized list for use in the M4 carbine. If you recall, the Safety of Use/Maintenance Information Message stated that the only USGI aluminum magazines — like the Army’s improved magazine, were authorized for use in the M4 and M16.I posted a story this morning on Military.com, quoting Matthew Bourke, an Army spokesman at the Pentagon, explaining that the message was poorly written and should have included guidance that the final decision on PMAG use rests with commanders in the field.

“At best, the message is incomplete; at worst the message allows soldiers to jump to the wrong conclusions,” Bourke said. “Maintenance Information Messages [from TACOM] are permissive. They are not an order.”

What’s really puzzling about this is the fact that TACOM officials had the chance to clarify this issue when I questioned them about it for the initial May 25 story. Instead, they dug in and argued that the only NSN-approved magazines that are authorized for use are those listed in the technical manuals — the improved magazine with the tan follower and the old magazine with the green follower.

It may have something to do with the $10.7 million contract TACOM Rock Island awarded to Brownells Inc. in 2009 to produce 1.4 million Army improved magazines.

Oh and I did get an answer from Program Executive Office Soldier on how its improved magazine performs against the PMAG.

The command responded through Army public affairs that weapons officials had conducted “limited side-by-side testing and found that no commercial magazine was superior to the improved magazine,” Bourke said.

[zteknik]

Thats good news!

[Inconel710]

The command responded through Army public affairs that weapons officials had conducted “limited side-by-side testing and found that no commercial magazine was superior to the improved magazine,” Bourke said.

Yeah, until you run over both of them with a HUMVEE. Guess which one will be up and running and which one will be ready for the recyling bin.

[mcantar18c]

The Regiment didn't stop issuing PMAGs after the TACOM message. Good to hear it didn't hold though.

[SA Friday]

Bet someone in TACOM got 'nut checked' for that one.

[rutz777]

good news

[Wiggity]

I'm guessing damn near every special forces unit was bitching about it to TACOM.

[spyder]

Yeah, until you run over both of them with a HUMVEE. Guess which one will be up and running and which one will be ready for the recyling bin.

No one really cares about recycling steel though... More than likely the steel bent up mag will just be thrown in the trash.

[Pacman89]

I know for sure if I were still servimg they would have to article 15 my a$$ cause I will not let my pmags go so this is good news for our soldiers

[275RLTW]

never listen to someone behind a desk when bullets start flying...common sense takes priority.