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    I appreciate justice being done; I don't appreciate injustice. In fact, the Biblical definition of justice is "an eye for an eye." What some forget, however, is that justice in the United States comes through the law and the courts and not vigilantes. When every man does what is right in his own eyes we have anarchy! I also very much appreciate those that can dialogue without the use of foul language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpapastr View Post
    I appreciate justice being done; I don't appreciate injustice. In fact, the Biblical definition of justice is "an eye for an eye." What some forget, however, is that justice in the United States comes through the law and the courts and not vigilantes. When every man does what is right in his own eyes we have anarchy! I also very much appreciate those that can dialogue without the use of foul language.
    If you witness an act of violence, or are being violated, defending yourself or others isn't vigilanteism, or justice, or injustice. It's just self defense, or defending a third person. In this case it just so happens that the scumbag got what he deserved while the dad was defending his daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    If you witness an act of violence, or are being violated, defending yourself or others isn't vigilanteism, or justice, or injustice. It's just self defense, or defending a third person. In this case it just so happens that the scumbag got what he deserved while the dad was defending his daughter.

    100% agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpapastr View Post
    I appreciate justice being done; I don't appreciate injustice. In fact, the Biblical definition of justice is "an eye for an eye." What some forget, however, is that justice in the United States comes through the law and the courts and not vigilantes. When every man does what is right in his own eyes we have anarchy! I also very much appreciate those that can dialogue without the use of foul language.
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    A great big pat on the back and an 'atta boy' to that father!!

    Filthy kid touchers. Got what he deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpapastr View Post
    I appreciate justice being done; I don't appreciate injustice. In fact, the Biblical definition of justice is "an eye for an eye." What some forget, however, is that justice in the United States comes through the law and the courts and not vigilantes. When every man does what is right in his own eyes we have anarchy! I also very much appreciate those that can dialogue without the use of foul language.

    so... are you saying the bible would have the him molest the molester? Also, "an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" pertains to sins against YOU, not a child- so what else could apply? Perhaps Matthew 18:6?
    but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
    or Exodus 22:2-3?
    2 “If a thief is caught breaking in at night and is struck a fatal blow, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed; 3 but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed.
    The father didn't do just "what was right in his own eyes", according to the law, his actions were justified in defense of a third person (his own daughter, whose well-being he is responsible for)

    Would have him call 911, and standby while she continued to be molested? Or ask him to stop (without cursing, of course)? None of us were there, so we don't know exactly how it happened.

    If he had taken action that would have put his daughter's life (or his own) at further risk, would any outcome where further harm occurs be OK?

    So I'd like to hear how you would proceed if YOU walked in on YOUR 4 year old daughter being molested by somebody? Then we can all sit back in our comfortable chairs and tell you how it could have gone wrong.

    (I'm not just being sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested in your response- and freely admitting that we're all "armchair quarterbacks" in this discussion)

    And on the topic of medals- if it were me defending my daughter, I would not want a medal, just my daughter's innocence back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpapastr View Post
    I appreciate justice being done; I don't appreciate injustice. In fact, the Biblical definition of justice is "an eye for an eye." What some forget, however, is that justice in the United States comes through the law and the courts and not vigilantes. When every man does what is right in his own eyes we have anarchy! I also very much appreciate those that can dialogue without the use of foul language.
    Eye for an eye is Old Testament. But the system you refer to is the Criminal Justice System...and they are usually the only ones who get any. I'd say the father was justified, having caught the sick, depraved, and otherwise worthless piece of human garbage in the act. Who knows how many others he saved from the same thing? Seems to me that Justice was served...by the father.

    When a system is so broken that things like this are commonplace, I believe that anarchy is allowing people like this slimeball to continue to perpetrate their depravity on innocents...like another 4 year old. I only hope the poor child gets past this and goes on to have normal, happy life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    Eye for an eye is Old Testament. But the system you refer to is the Criminal Justice System...and they are usually the only ones who get any. I'd say the father was justified, having caught the sick, depraved, and otherwise worthless piece of human garbage in the act. Who knows how many others he saved from the same thing? Seems to me that Justice was served...by the father.

    When a system is so broken that things like this are commonplace, I believe that anarchy is allowing people like this slimeball to continue to perpetrate their depravity on innocents...like another 4 year old. I only hope the poor child gets past this and goes on to have normal, happy life.

    If you want to go Old Testament the Mosaic Law stated that the penalty for rape was death. Very simple eye for an eye did not apply. Hey I'm a poet and didn't know it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleDave View Post
    If you want to go Old Testament the Mosaic Law stated that the penalty for rape was death. Very simple eye for an eye did not apply. Hey I'm a poet and didn't know it!
    Yeah, that was sort of what I was getting at, just in a different way. Old Testament was replaced by the New. No more eye for an eye, anyway. (Unless you're Jewish.)
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