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    WASHINGTON—Last summer, gays in the military dared not acknowledge their sexual orientation. This summer, the Pentagon will salute them, marking June as gay pride month just as it has marked other celebrations honoring racial or ethnic groups.

    In the latest remarkable sign of change since the military repealed the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, the Defense Department will soon hold its first event to recognize gay and lesbian troops. It comes nine months after repeal of the policy that had prohibited gay troops from serving openly and forced more than 13,500 service members out of the armed forces.
    Details are still being worked out, but officials say Defense Secretary Leon Panetta wants to honor the contributions of gay service members.
    "Now that we've repealed 'don't ask, don't tell,' he feels it's important to find a way this month to recognize the service and professionalism of gay and lesbian troops," said Navy Capt. John Kirby, a spokesman.
    This month's event will follow a long tradition at the Pentagon of recognizing diversity in America's armed forces. Hallway displays and activities, for example, have marked Black History Month and Asian-Pacific American Heritage Month.

    Before the repeal, gay troops could serve but couldn't reveal their orientation. If they did, they would be discharged. At the same time, a commanding officer was prohibited from asking a service member whether he or she was gay.

    Although some feared repeal of the ban on serving openly would cause problems in the ranks, officials and gay advocacy groups say no big issues have materialized—aside from what advocacy groups criticize as slow implementation of some changes, such as benefit entitlements to troops in same-sex marriages.

    Basic changes have come rapidly since repeal; the biggest is that gay and lesbian soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines no longer have to hide their sexuality in order to serve. They can put photos on their office desk without fear of being outed, attend social events with their partners and openly join advocacy groups looking out for their interests.

    OutServe, a once-clandestine professional association for gay service members, has nearly doubled in size to more than 5,500 members. It held its first national convention of gay service members in Las Vegas last fall, then a conference on family issues this year in Washington.

    At West Point, the alumni gay advocacy group Knights Out was able to hold the first installment in March of what is intended to be an annual dinner in recognition of gay and lesbian graduates and Army cadets. Gay students at the U.S. Naval Academy were able to take same-sex dates to the academy's Ring Dance for third-year midshipmen.

    Panetta said last month that military leaders had concluded that repeal had not affected morale or readiness. A report to Panetta with assessments from the individual military service branches said that as of May 1 they had seen no ill effects.

    "I don't think it's just moving along smoothly, I think it's accelerating faster than we even thought the military would as far as progress goes," said Air Force 1st Lt. Josh Seefried, a finance officer and co-director of OutServe.
    He said acceptance has been broad among straight service members and has put a spotlight on unequal treatment that gays continue to receive in some areas. "We are seeing such tremendous progress in how much the military is accepting us, but not only that—in how much the rank and file is now understanding the inequality that's existing right now," he said.
    That's a reference to the fact that same-sex couples aren't afforded spousal health care, assignments to the same location when they transfer to another job, and other benefits. There was no immediate change to eligibility standards for military benefits in September. All service members already were entitled to certain things, such as designating a partner as one's life insurance beneficiary or as designated caregiver in the Wounded Warrior program.

    As for other benefits still not approved, the department began a review after repeal with an eye toward possibly extending eligibility, consistent with the federal Defense of Marriage Act and other applicable laws, to the same-sex partners of military personnel.

    "The department is carefully and deliberately reviewing the benefits from a policy, fiscal, legal and feasibility perspective," Eileen Lainez, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said Thursday.

    Gay marriage has been perhaps the most difficult issue.

    Though chaplains on bases in some states are allowed to hold what the Pentagon officials call "private services"—they don't use the words wedding or marriage—such unions do not garner marriage benefits because the Defense of Marriage Act says marriage is between a man and a woman.

    The "don't ask, don't tell" policy was in force for 18 years, and its repeal was a slow and deliberate process.

    President Barack Obama on Dec. 22, 2010, signed legislation repealing it. Framing the issue as a matter of civil rights long denied, Obama said, "We are a nation that welcomes the service of every patriot ... a nation that believes that all men and women are created equal."
    The military then did an assessment for several months to certify that the forces were prepared to implement it in a way that would not hurt military readiness. And it held training for its 2.25 million-person force to inform everyone of the coming change and what was expected.

    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

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    It just doesnt seem normal to be "strait" anymore. Everything these days is pushing homosexuality down your throat. Not that I am against it but dont want it force fed to me everytime I turn around. From the t.v. to every dang magazine around. So sick of hearing it.

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    TV, Military, Media, government, employers etc all seem to be pushing this agenda now...even the VP and the POTUS.

    I am all for personal freedom, choose what you want to do and be what you want to be...but to have a damn month about it is ridiculous. To shove it in everyones faces and show it off all the time is annoying.

    Maybe it is time we start "white history month", the "united white fund", "straight eye for the straight guy", etc. etc...
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    When is White Pride month? Oh that's right, we don't have one. When do we celebrate the specific accomplishments of whites? We don't. One team, one fight. Unless you're anything other than a straight, white, Christian male. Then you get special recognition.

    I'm so sick of stuff like this. You're gay? Big effing deal. Get over yourself. Everybody else has. If you need validation from others to feel better about yourself, then you have bigger issues.

    Why would the military recognize anybody for anything other than specific accomplishments? I got news for you, being gay and in the military isn't an accomplishment.

    I'm with you, FX4, quit shoving your geighness down my throat.

    The politicizing and social experimenting with the military has to stop (like that will ever happen).
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    Military professionalism at its finest:



    This one's kinda hot:



    Kyle

    Girlscouts? Hmmm, I don't know... I think it's kinda dangerous to teach young girls self esteem and leadership skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpienads View Post
    The politicizing and social experimenting with the military has to stop (like that will ever happen).
    I am SF at USAFA and they actually reserved an area for the "gay pride" cadet group. It just seems like its frowned upon to be normal anymore. This country needs to pull its head out of its rear.

    This crap is about as bad as Obama saying if he had a son, he would be like Trayvon Martin.......The same Trayvon Martin who was caught with a bag of jewelry and weed as well as having THC in his system at the time of his death. Dispicable.

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    I see no problem with it. As long as it does not get in the way of their duties and they don't get "special" treatment, negative or positive, then there is no issue on my part... Although having a month for it is stupid, just like any other special person month.

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    You know I am going to have to say that I dont care one way or another about a persons sexual orientation, I just dont care. If a gay man or woman wants to serve in the armed forces let them. Does it make them any less patriotic than the straight service men and women? No. The two pictures posted previously of the gay/lesbian kissing with the comment about "military professionalism" what makes it any different from this shot.



    Nothing thats what.
    Should the pentagon be recognizing gay pride month? No. They also shouldnt be recognizing any other pride month that isnt strictly military its the pentagon for cryin out loud.

    Do I think its ok for a gay guy to flame it up in uniform? No. That is unprofessional. I would say the same thing about a straight soldier making lewd comments while in uniform.

    As far as the subject of gay marriage in or out of the military I am fine with it. They have just as much right as a straight man or woman to be miserable for a few years and then lose half of their shit.

    Any way I have been on the phone with customers for the last hour or so since the last sentence and lost my train of thought so all you get is half my rant. So in closing gay straight or otherwise if you have served thank you.

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    I'm pleasantly surprised at the comments in this thread.

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