Jim Zumbo AR-15s = Terrorist weapons.

[Mule]

If you guys haven't seen this yet.
http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2...t_rifles_.html

This will ruin your night, so if its going good, don't read this till morning...

Mule,

[Delphi]

he's an idiot....

Although his idiotacy does well in dividing the shooting community... "terrorist rifles" for god sakes...

[HunterCO]

I seen that and one of my freinds/ hunting parteners daughter is married to Zumbos son.

I have not met Zumbo yet and after this I don't know that I want to. [diss]

[HunterCO]

he's an idiot....

Although I can not disagree that what he said was very anti-gun and disgusts me.

I have to ask this if he is such an "Idiot" why don't you explain the art of still hunting for example??

The floor is yours Delphi!

I have read many of his books and he is a brilliant hunter to bad he turned on us. [diss]

[7idl]

he's not an idiot, hes an @ss.

A time when all firearms owners need to take a stand TOGETHER, he chooses to be a seperatist.

fuk him

my suggestion is to fire off an email to him and let him know what you think and also send a letter to John Snow demanding his release from their publication.

Assault Rifles For Hunters?
As I write this, I'm hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We're testing Remington's brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."



This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods.



UPDATE: As a point of clarification about this blog, it is important for everyone to realize that the opinions expressed here are Jim’s and not necessarily those of Outdoor Life.

I’ve been friends with Jim for many years and have shared countless great times with him talking about both hunting and guns. While I totally support Jim’s right to express his point of view—this is his blog after all—I don’t happen to agree with him on this matter.

His position that AR- and AK-style rifles don’t have a place among our “sporting arms” is not one that I personally, or Outdoor Life as a magazine, happens to share.

In the six years that I’ve worked at Outdoor Life we have never wavered in our support of our Second Amendment rights, which don’t, and shouldn’t, make a distinction about the cosmetic look of the guns that we choose take to our local gun clubs or into hunting camp.

That said, I don’t expect every other hunter and sportsman out there to have a set of opinions that moves in lockstep with mine. So while I don’t share Jim’s view on this, I also know that he is still the same wonderfully talented and good-natured person he was before this post went up. For those of you who have followed him for all or part of his more than thirty years at Outdoor Life, I would ask you to bear that in mind before damning him with personal attacks.

John B. Snow
Executive Editor
Outdoor Life

[7idl]

In all fairness :roll: (like we had a chance)

he does follow that post up with the following: (LINK)

I was wrong, BIG TIME
Someone once said that to err is human. I just erred, and made without question, the biggest blunder in my 42 years of writing hunting articles.

My blog inflamed legions of people I love most..... hunters and shooters. Obviously, when I wrote that blog, I activated my mouth before engaging my brain.

Let me explain the circumstances surrounding that blog. I was hunting coyotes, and after the hunt was over and being beat up by 60 mph winds all day, I was discussing hunting with one of the young guides. I was tired and exhausted, and I should have gone to bed early. When the guide told me that there was a "huge" following of hunters who use AR 15's and similar weapons to hunt prairies dogs, I was amazed. At that point I wrote the blog, and never thought it through.

Now then, you might not believe what I have to say, but I hope you do. How is it that Zumbo, who has been hunting for more than 50 years, is totally ignorant about these types of guns. I don't know. I shot one once at a target last year, and thought it was cool, but I never considered using one for hunting. I had absolutely no idea how vast the numbers of folks are who use them.

I never intended to be divisive, and I certainly believe in United we Stand, Divided we Fall. I've been an NRA member for 40 years, have attended 8 national NRA conventions in the last 10 years, and I'm an advisory board member for the United States Sportsmen's Alliance which actively fights anti-hunters and animal rights groups for hunter's rights.

What really bothers me are some of the unpatriotic comments leveled at me. I fly the flag 365 days a year in my front yard. Last year, through an essay contest, I hosted a soldier wounded in Iraq to a free hunt in Botswana. This year, through another essay contest, I'm taking two more soldiers on a free moose and elk hunt.

When I started blogging, I was told to write my thoughts, expressing my own opinion. The offensive blog I wrote was MY opinion, and no one else's. None of the companies that I deal with share that opinion, nor were they aware of what I had written until this firestorm started.

Believe it or not, I'm your best friend if you're a hunter or shooter, though it might not seem that way. I simply screwed up. And, to show that I'm sincere about this, I just talked to Ted Nugent, who everyone knows, and is a Board member of the NRA. Ted is extremely active with charities concerning our wounded military, and though he's known as a bowhunter, Ted has no problem with AR 15's and similar firearms. My sincerity stems from the fact that Ted and I are planning a hunt using AR 15's. I intend to learn all I can about them, and again, I'm sorry for inserting my foot in my mouth.

both pages have replies, I suggest you read them.

[Mule]

The problem with his apology is it never retracts any of his statements. I see it as a CYA thing. Somehow, I don't think the Law enforcement and Military personnel like being called terrorists, since they use the terrorist weapons to protect and serve us.

The other problem I see is that this attitude is not just his. I ran into an older guy at a sporting goods store that pretty much had the same attitude. I guess their form of hunting and target shooting (competing in his case) is the only one that is acceptable......

[Mule]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Score for us!!!!!

Alert NOTICE: Remington is in the process of severing our sponsorships with Mr. Zumbo. Remington in no way shares or advocates any of the comments made by Mr. Zumbo on his blog site. A formal announcement will be released by noon today.

If you didn't know, the Brady bunch jumped on this like a wildfire in CA......

The damage is done, I don't see how anyone can stick up for him.
He did more to hurt us in his one blog entry than his whole life of writing books and doing TV shows could ever help.


PS, Since Remington has dropped him. We need to support them. Some of us on other boards are going to go buy a box of Remington cartridges today in support of their decision.

[7idl]

there may be a silver lining to this ordeal... maybe, just maybe bring people together... time will tell ( time will also tell the damage that he has done.. it is going to take a lot of effort of a lot of people to undo this damage) :evil:

[7idl]

UPDATE:

http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2...t_rifles_.html

new link.

Statement from Outdoor Life
Due to the controversy surrounding Jim Zumbo’s recent postings, Outdoor Life has decided to discontinue the “Hunting With Zumbo” blog for the time being. Outdoor Life has always been, and will always be, a steadfast supporter of our Second Amendment rights, which do not make distinctions based on the looks of the firearms we choose to own, shoot and take hunting. Please direct any comments you have to OLletters@time4.com.