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    Quote Originally Posted by Fmedges View Post
    I don't think the message that they were trying to send was not to do steroids. It sounded to me like the message was don't lie while under oath to the congress.
    Why in the hell were they even having congressional hearings in the first place, show me where congress has the right to hear testimony on private situations, if they juiced they violated a civil contract
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    Oh differnt type of problem.

    And Armstrong couldn't have used he's a weenie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    Oh differnt type of problem.

    And Armstrong couldn't have used he's a weenie.
    There are different ways to juice. I believe he was focused on endurance by increasing white blood cell counts, and not muscle strength.

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    Still The Weenie.

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    Don't these guys usually get busted for lying to Congress or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Don't these guys usually get busted for lying to Congress or something?
    Bonds got a minor slap on the wrist.

    both have their hall of fame chances in severe jeopardy. I wouldn't vote for bonds, but I would for Clemens.

    lying to congress is not lying anymore. It is just not releasing all of the truth!
    Eric Holder can attest to that statement.
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    I am a fan of baseball. I don't like the fact players are doping. With that said. Why was this even before Congress? Shouldn't baseball monitor it themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    I am a fan of baseball. I don't like the fact players are doping. With that said. Why was this even before Congress? Shouldn't baseball monitor it themselves?

    It went before a congressional committee because the house and senate are inept at doing anything that is actually beneficial, for the people, so they went after baseball.
    You actually want our elected officials to do something productive
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    One in ten houses in my neighborhood is in foreclosure & vacant and the Congress thinks it is appropriate dwell on this trivial matter? We need to do to our government what we did to the Iraqi government of Saddam Hussein...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Bonds got a minor slap on the wrist.

    both have their hall of fame chances in severe jeopardy. I wouldn't vote for bonds, but I would for Clemens.

    lying to congress is not lying anymore. It is just not releasing all of the truth!
    Eric Holder can attest to that statement.
    So this is something that I always think about the HOF.

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    Voting shall be based upon the player’s record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.

    I would say that Clemens lacks character, sportsmanship and character. The same can be said for Bonds and whoever else cheated. The whole argument of numbers in invalidated by this in my opinion.

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