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I hate this crap so much, the whole bunch of them need to flushed down the toilet and live in the sewer with the rest of the rats.
The system is so screwed up and I fear its only going to get worse.
But a Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever.
-John Adams, 1775
Cstone 01/01/2015
"I believe that we are all one mistake away from tragedy...and the mistake made may not be ours."
What a bunch of SOBs. IMO this is one of the biggest (if not THE biggest) scandals ANY administration has been part of. I am convinced BO knew everything about this and even directed it as he openly used the information about US guns going to Mexico to further his anti-gun agenda. He stood up on Mexican TV blaming us, law abiding American citizens, for the violence troubles in Mexico. He said it was because of US guns getting across the border. But his own administration was sending them across the border.
The DOJ has outright lied at every turn. Early last year they said there was no such program allowing straw purchasers to send guns to criminals. That they enforced straw purchasing laws.
Then Holder said he "just" learned about it.
Then we find out that he knew about it all along.
The DOJ lied.
The ATF used this "walked" guns to make the case for new multi-gun reporting requirements for US civilians along the boarder with Demand Letter 3. In fact, they encouraged dealers to sell to known straw purchasers.
Dealer's email to ATF
AFT's email back to dealer
The same dealer sent the below email BEFORE Brian Terry was killed
Obama himself said the Feds responsible for Fast & Furious will be held accountable."I wanted to make sure that none of the firearms that were sold per our conversation with you and various ATF agents could or would ever end up south of the border or in the hands of the bad guys. I guess I am looking for a bit of reassurance that the guns are not getting south or in the wrong hands...I want to help ATF with its investigation but not at the risk of agents (sic) safety because I have some very close friends that are US Border Patrol agents in southern AZ as well as my concern for all the agents (sic) safety that protect our country."
No one is being held accountable...BO lied (no surprise, but why more people aren't pissed is beyond my comprehension)
A federal officer is dead.
Roger Clemens lied to congress and they spend years organizing to charge him and then months in trial. He lied about using steroids and no one got hurt.
The ATF, DOJ and WH have lied to congress about about F&F multiple times, someone died (potentially hundreds if we count the violence in Mexico) and we get nothing.
People need to be fired over this. People need to go to jail over this.
This clip from Top Gun sums it up...
No, once the executive privilege has been ordered there's no way around itOriginally Posted by sniper7
It's probably the most concrete thing we have, next to the constitution (but I sometimes question that)
Fox "Bias"
Issa pushes ahead with Holder contempt vote despite Obama intervention
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1yLo9BXyY
I have underlined the word "despite" that Fox used. To any reasonable person, that would indicate that Beeho's intervention was somehow in the direction of what the committee was requesting. The reality is Beeho gave the committee the finger.
I would have expected such a title from MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news - the shill mouthpieces for the democrats. Now we have the "fair and balanced" Fox giving a totally inaccurate and spun title on a very critical story. I guess behaving like the left wing media makes Fox more "balanced"? Very disappointing.
We have yet another example of a constitutional crisis in the US. The separation of powers means nothing to Beeho's administration. They continue to act as an emporer or monarchy completely without accountability. The bottom line is if Boehner doesn't find some Cohones ASAP. we will by definition no longer be a constitutional republic but instead a Kingdom/empire.
Seeing Beeho in action, I'm guessing he knows he is in big electoral trouble - and sees another distraction as something that he can benefit from. The media will give him cover and the Dem's talking points are already established as a "political witch hunt".
Singlestack
"Guilty of collusion"
True. Although in this case, the DOJ was asked for documents, not the White House like in those other cases. Executive Privilege is used to protect the White House, not the DOJ. So by them using this privilege it answers the question "was the White House involved?" Yup.
But of course we all knew that already.
PS - this DOJ site is a FAIL.
Open Government
Barack Obama= THE worst president ever.
looks like normal chicago style politics to me
Self control: The minds ability to override the body's urge to beat the living sh.. out of some ass.... who desperately deserves it.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
Obama, so full of crap it is a miracle Air Force One can even get off the ground,
Did it really work for Nixon?
He still had to resign and he'd have died in prison if Ford didn't pardon him.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
Transparency and Open Government
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BARACK OBAMA
what % of the population knows and/or cares that our feds were running guns to drug cartels to create a case against gun ownership in barack hussien's possible 2nd term?
my guess.. about 10% maybe. i know alot of people in america love guns, but how many are actively engaged and enraged over this/typical gov BS?
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