How would any of you of handled this?

[mcsurveyer1361]

i though he talked to much but did a good job. He handled it way better then prob would have if a cop flagged me with a loaded weapon. Thats when i would get mad and prob make a formal complaint.

[Rooskibar03]

He ran his mouth a lot but at least he had his facts in order. Can't say I'm as well prepared, which is why I'm hesitant to OC.

[spyder]

The guy knows his stuff, but is really friggen annoying. He just keeps running his mouth like a jack ass. Seriously, the cop was just doing his job, if someone calls in a suspicious guy carrying a gun, they have to check on you. If they check on you, you don't need to be a stupid pain in the ass like that guy was being. Why in your dumb ass mind would you think it is ok to try to be a punk like that guy was doing? It looks like he was showing off for his camera really. All he had to do was ask what he was being stopped for, hand over his gun and wait for his background check to pass. It could have been a whole hell of a lot easier for all of them. I see the guy as an educated jack ass personally. Why the hell would you be a dick and give the cops a hard time when all they are doing is their job responding to some retards complaint? It wasn't the cops fault!

Any officers want to chime in on how that guy handled it and how you as an officer would have handled him?

[Inconel710]

IMO, the best way for the cop to have handled the situation would have been to just chat the guy up. He didn't have to take the gun first thing. A simple, "Hey someone called in about a guy carrying a gun and we had to check on it."

The civilian talked alot, but I think that was adrenaline. He knew he was in a confrontation and was trying to make his case. He could have been more polite, especially after the cop swept him. "Please watch that muzzle, officer. I don't want to get hurt." The goal is to portray OC as a legal and "normal" behavior, not to convince people that you're a know-it-all.

[spyder]

IMO, the best way for the cop to have handled the situation would have been to just chat the guy up...

The cop didn't have the chance as the guy was being a dick about everything and showing off. He did however tell the guy that he was called in by a concerned citizen (liberal jack ass) and that they were responding to the call.

[Inconel710]

The cop didn't have the chance as the guy was being a dick about everything and showing off. He did however tell the guy that he was called in by a concerned citizen (liberal jack ass) and that they were responding to the call.

Ah, but that was after he took the guy's gun. From what the video shows, it looks like the cop started off heavy by taking the gun THEN talking to the civilian. It's just speculation, but I think a different opening move might have ended differently. Note - I do agree the civilian is expecting trouble and found it.

[10mm-man]

All he had to do was ask what he was being stopped for, hand over his gun and wait for his background check to pass. It could have been a whole hell of a lot easier for all of them. I see the guy as an educated jack ass personally. Why the hell would you be a dick and give the cops a hard time when all they are doing is their job responding to some retards complaint? It wasn't the cops fault!

Any officers want to chime in on how that guy handled it and how you as an officer would have handled him?

Hand over your gun? To Illegal search and seizure???


I think his point was that under the law he quoted; he couldn't be stopped for just "open carry"!! The cops were in the wrong the whole time!! that is why the supervisor said that he was free to go. I think the stop was "bullshit" and he made sure they knew....

We can't stand for harassment no matter how minor it is, the subservient attitude is what got us into this mess in the 1st place.... The cop shouldn't have made the stop unless he was "breaking the law" which he wasn't. The cop could have followed him observed him and then if he did something wrong stop him. Listen to the law he was quoting....

[mcantar18c]

The civilian talked alot, but I think that was adrenaline.

Ah, but that was after he took the guy's gun. From what the video shows, it looks like the cop started off heavy by taking the gun THEN talking to the civilian. It's just speculation, but I think a different opening move might have ended differently. Note - I do agree the civilian is expecting trouble and found it.

Which one? I'm pretty sure everybody involved in this incident is a civilian...

[BushMasterBoy]

If you don't have a military identification card showing your rank, then you are a civilian!

[spyder]

Somebody help me out here, when a cop is called because of a "suspicious person" AKA a guy with a holstered gun, what is that called?

Now, my thing on this, is the cop has to respond to it. You then have a few choices, one, argue and try to make your point like that guy did in the video. Two, be nice and let the cop do what he is there to do which is to make sure you are legal to carry. Or three, have a nice calm conversation with the cop explaining everything in a calm manner (unlike Mr. Gun Rights Guy) with the cop letting him know that you know your shit. Now, I'm not an expert on this, but I thought in those situations, a cop has the right to check you out? I know what NRA guys say considering that they have taught at my school and I have heard from them while at the NRA center down here. I also know that everyone has their agenda and will tell others to "fight the good fight" if you will about "standing your legal ground" in situation like this. I want to hear from an officer on this board, what they can legally do if someone calls in a suspicious person with a gun? I think that would be helpful.