How would any of you of handled this?

[KevDen2005]

Ok, well, there we have it. Thanks Kev.

I guess one last question, if someone calls in a guy with a gun, are you (the PD in general) required to check it out? Lets say a lib says that there is a suspicious guy walking down the street with a gun on his hip.

Generally yes. It may depend on your jurisdiction, however we respond to every single call for service no matter how selective we would want to be. This goes back to the neutrality and the government service. We can't pick and choose. A citizen called in a suspicious person we will have to respond.

Imagine if it sounded like nothing and we didn't go and this guy shoots up a building full of people...we would be held accountable that we didn't respond and investigate

[cstone]

Are you prescribed adderal?

Now that was funny!

After reading Ronin, I now have John Lennon in my head singing All we are saying... Is give peace a chance.

Someone please make it stop.

Life doesn't come with an instruction booklet and if it did, it would be in English written by someone from North Korea.

Roll your dice and move your mice.

Be safe.

[SouthPaw]

Hey man, calm down...Don't give yourself an aneurysm.

But in all seriousness...I havent' read this entire thread and rarely do when it comes to matters like this because of all the experts generally...I would like to point out that no one really knows what happened prior to video running and no one really knows how or in what way the call was reported to law enforcement or how it was dispatched to law enforcement. Take that for what you will...maybe just a little food for thought.

One of my criminal justice teachers could not say this enough in his classroom. Students all the time would bring articles, stories, videos of police acting on a certain subject asking what he would have done. His anwer simply was something along the lines of "I was not personally there and there is too many what if's."

[jackthewall81]

No, but I was once prescribed ritalin... Why, are you offering?

No offer, I just could not fathom consistently writing books like you do without being on adderal.

[Ronin13]

No offer, I just could not fathom consistently writing books like you do without being on adderal.

My mind does move fast... try to keep up!

[KevDen2005]

One of my criminal justice teachers could not say this enough in his classroom. Students all the time would bring articles, stories, videos of police acting on a certain subject asking what he would have done. His anwer simply was something along the lines of "I was not personally there and there is too many what if's."

I have two friends who happen to be horrible drivers. Every time they get pulled over, whether they get a ticket or not, they complain to me and ask me about it. I of course hate this because I wasn't there and I couldn't possibly begin to determine what the officer saw. On top of that I am only getting their half of the story, which I have no doubt, is skewed in their direction. In fact on of my friends was stopped for speeding, the officer showed him the radar, which I don't do and am not required to do, but some do just to save the argument. My friend at this point, the only vehicle on the road in the middle of the night, has declared this police corruption because he believes the unnamed department has made their equipment 'lie' in their favor just for revenue building. I just simply responded with, maybe slow down and avoid it all together.

[10mm-man]

Generally yes. It may depend on your jurisdiction, however we respond to every single call for service no matter how selective we would want to be. This goes back to the neutrality and the government service. We can't pick and choose. A citizen called in a suspicious person we will have to respond.

Imagine if it sounded like nothing and we didn't go and this guy shoots up a building full of people...we would be held accountable that we didn't respond and investigate

Thanks for getting dragged into the conversation! So you have to respond, how about initiate contact? The guy in this video quoted a couple case laws alluding to Police not able to stop someone for open carry, based on just OC. I think Spyder meant to ask "Initiate Contact" if a call came in about a suspicious person OC, but I could be wrong.

Thanks again!

[SouthPaw]

I have two friends who happen to be horrible drivers. Every time they get pulled over, whether they get a ticket or not, they complain to me and ask me about it. I of course hate this because I wasn't there and I couldn't possibly begin to determine what the officer saw. On top of that I am only getting their half of the story, which I have no doubt, is skewed in their direction. In fact on of my friends was stopped for speeding, the officer showed him the radar, which I don't do and am not required to do, but some do just to save the argument. My friend at this point, the only vehicle on the road in the middle of the night, has declared this police corruption because he believes the unnamed department has made their equipment 'lie' in their favor just for revenue building. I just simply responded with, maybe slow down and avoid it all together.

I hear ya. A few of my friends are LEO and the only time they here from their "friends" is when they get a ticket asking if the cop did something wrong, how they could get out of it, or what they should do about it. I have rightfully deserved almost every ticket I have recieved. I can recall two, maybe three that were BS but that is what court is for.

IMHO, the guy CLEARLY went out looking for contact with LEO and he got it. If that is what he prefers to do with his free time, so be it. Good for him for being well eduactated on the matter (or talk like he is), and excersising his rights. I actually enjoy watching this videos on youtube. For some reason I get a kick out of them whether its is from LEO or the OC'er.

[KevDen2005]

Thanks for getting dragged into the conversation! So you have to respond, how about initiate contact? The guy in this video quoted a couple case laws alluding to Police not able to stop someone for open carry, based on just OC. I think Spyder meant to ask "Initiate Contact" if a call came in about a suspicious person OC, but I could be wrong.

Thanks again!

Just because someone doesn't make a phone call doesn't mean police contact results in only a consensual contact. If police can articulate a reasonable suspicion ton contact a person they don't need consent. Often times I will also ask for consent so I can articulate in my report later that there were circumstances that allowed me to contact this person AND I got consent.

[10mm-man]

Just because someone doesn't make a phone call doesn't mean police contact results in only a consensual contact. If police can articulate a reasonable suspicion ton contact a person they don't need consent. Often times I will also ask for consent so I can articulate in my report later that there were circumstances that allowed me to contact this person AND I got consent.

That's kinda what I was thinking; even if the law says that LEO can't stop someone solely for OC, if the LEO really wants to stop you, they could wait until they could justify "reasonable suspicion" or until maybe you "jaywalked".

So maybe I am missing something and sorry if it's spelled out "between the lines", but if a call came in and you had to respond (to the OC guy) would you have to initiate contact by law? Or is it up to you at that point?

Thanks!