How would any of you of handled this?

[Ronin13]

This video is a little long, but it gives some examples of the types of contact officers make all over the country with all types of people.

The issue doesn't have to be "open carry."

Some people want contact with LE. Some people only post the bad contact they have with officers because it fits their agenda. Some people (like the last contact in the video) actually post the good contact. There are other videos available on the Internet documenting good contact. I wish there was more. Both the good and the bad videos make good training aids for officers.

Their are hundreds of thousands of laws and millions of citizens dealing with tens of thousands of LEOs. Math makes my head hurt, and probability of getting everything right given the numbers of variables just makes me happy when everyone walks away without any serious injury.

IMO, the greatest violation of Constitutional rights is to unlawfully deprive a citizen of their life.

Be safe.

I will say this, they were trying to progress their agenda but some of those cops were a little difficult to deal with. I'm just upset that they're trying to push their "9/11 Truth" BS and that they're from Denver. But the last Deputy was awesome.

[cstone]

I will say this, they were trying to progress their agenda but some of those cops were a little difficult to deal with. I'm just upset that they're trying to push their "9/11 Truth" BS and that they're from Denver. But the last Deputy was awesome.

Everyone supports "free speech" that they agree with. The Constitution calls for support of "free speech" regardless of who agrees with the speaker. The Founding Fathers were sometimes amazing in their forethought

[Ronin13]

Everyone supports "free speech" that they agree with. The Constitution calls for support of "free speech" regardless of who agrees with the speaker. The Founding Fathers were sometimes amazing in their forethought

That's not entirely true... I support all free speech (as long as it doesn't inspire infringement or directly infringe on other's rights- like I don't support "free speech" that calls for illegal bounties to be placed on legal gun owners exercising their right to defend themselves when getting beaten up). I even, after being spit on, told a lady who called me a "goddamned baby killer" that I would gladly give my life to defend her right to say such vile, hate filled things, because that's her right (now the getting spit on part I did address separately and she apologized for that).

[Chad4000]

.... after being spit on, ...

wow... I really wish that was something from the past.. sorry that happened to you man..

[Ronin13]

wow... I really wish that was something from the past.. sorry that happened to you man..

Nope, this happened in my home town in 2008, about 7 months or so before I deployed to Afghanistan. Short version- In a bar, with some friends I hadn't seen since I joined the Army, woman overheard my conversation about training and this and that, then decided to take a few minutes out of her life to come voice her anti-war, anti-military, hateful opinion. Gladly this was on my 1st beer and I wasn't angry. After hearing what I said to her in the friendliest of tones, the bartender/bar owner politely asked her to leave... before adding, "I hear Iran is nice this time of year, start packing bitch!"

[10mm-man]

"I hear Iran is nice this time of year, start packing bitch!"

Not sure what I would have done if a lady spit on me but the words above are very fitting!!!

[Chad4000]

Not sure what I would have done if a lady spit on me but the words above are very fitting!!!

agreed... wow

[Chad4000]

Nope, this happened in my home town in 2008, about 7 months or so before I deployed to Afghanistan. Short version- In a bar, with some friends I hadn't seen since I joined the Army, woman overheard my conversation about training and this and that, then decided to take a few minutes out of her life to come voice her anti-war, anti-military, hateful opinion. Gladly this was on my 1st beer and I wasn't angry. After hearing what I said to her in the friendliest of tones, the bartender/bar owner politely asked her to leave... before adding, "I hear Iran is nice this time of year, start packing bitch!"

incredible man.... thats rediculous... thank you for the service if i hadnt ever mentioned it before...

[cstone]

That's not entirely true... I support all free speech (as long as it doesn't inspire infringement or directly infringe on other's rights- like I don't support "free speech" that calls for illegal bounties to be placed on legal gun owners exercising their right to defend themselves when getting beaten up). I even, after being spit on, told a lady who called me a "goddamned baby killer" that I would gladly give my life to defend her right to say such vile, hate filled things, because that's her right (now the getting spit on part I did address separately and she apologized for that).

Spitting on someone is not "free speech." It is an assault in most jurisdictions. You chose not to press charges and I have no argument with that.

I did not say that "free speech" was absolute. There will always be some forms of speech that are not permissible by a civilized society. In the incident you have provided, the woman was free to say what she said because of the service that you, I, and millions of other citizens have given to this nation over the past two hundred plus years. The bartender was also within his rights to refuse her service if in his opinion, she was causing a disturbance in a state licensed establishment serving alcohol.

No one should be spit on. Cops get spit on a lot. I've been told by prosecutors as they "no paper" or drop charges on people who have spit on, thrown shit on, kicked, punched, etc... myself and other officers, that this is part of our job and that we knew what we were getting into when we took the job. It's not personal. At the end of the day, you go home to your family and loved ones and you move on to your next shift and your next call. One of the best ways to stay out of trouble as an officer is to remember your last call and the lessons you have learned, but treat the next citizen as if this is the first time they have ever dealt with the police and they are as innocent as you are required to presume they are. Once in a while, this will get an officer killed or seriously hurt. After all, we knew what we were getting into when we took the job.

Be safe.

[10mm-man]

The Founding Fathers were sometimes amazing in their forethought

It's constantly under attack (what the Founding fathers) stood for..........