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    Hoser, are the new systems much better than the old ones?

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    Just to let everyone know, and I have a bit of knowledge in this- currently, I believe, we have a Type II or III federal incident management team orchestrating all the efforts for this fire up near Ft. Collins. Their logistics officer is in charge of asking for resources and what the Feds decide to allocate for the efforts are what they use. There are two types of fire fighting resources to use: Private, and public. They can both be used either independently or combined depending on the fire, the situation, and the seriousness.

    Remember, fighting a fire involves a lot of bureaucracy the higher level of FIM team involved. They have to follow SOP and file requests with their higher ups. They get what is available and able to be deployed. With all the activity around the country and this time of year I'll bet a lot of resources are tasked out and they have to try and figure out what goes where. It's a very complicated matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Just to let everyone know, and I have a bit of knowledge in this- currently, I believe, we have a Type II or III federal incident management team orchestrating all the efforts for this fire up near Ft. Collins. Their logistics officer is in charge of asking for resources and what the Feds decide to allocate for the efforts are what they use. There are two types of fire fighting resources to use: Private, and public. They can both be used either independently or combined depending on the fire, the situation, and the seriousness.

    Remember, fighting a fire involves a lot of bureaucracy the higher level of FIM team involved. They have to follow SOP and file requests with their higher ups. They get what is available and able to be deployed. With all the activity around the country and this time of year I'll bet a lot of resources are tasked out and they have to try and figure out what goes where. It's a very complicated matter.
    Having just come from there, I can tell you there is a Type I management team on the ground.
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    I think Hick could have / should have (and maybe he did) made some calls / pleas for those planes regardless of if all private / commercial assets were not used up, given the situation here.

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    Actually, Marty, he was making the request as early as Sat. evening, Sun. morning.

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    What Hoser knows, but many probably do not is, the Governor does not have any control over the Air Force Reserves. They are a federal entity, unlike the National Guard, which is a state entity. The Colorado Air National Guard doesn't have any C-130 assets, just fighter planes. So, the Governor couldn't just "call up" the assets, like he did my unit.
    “Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson

    A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'

    That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoser View Post
    We finally got to go fly until Mother Nature grounded us.



    I was on the plane working. I am usually wearing an illegal baseball hat or something else, so I tend to avoid cameras.

    Hopefully today we can get back to work early.
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