Army finally admits UCP sucks ... blew $5BILLION

[KevDen2005]

I would also like to go on record here. When the Army was switching to this uniform, I was a specialist about to be sergeant with no combat experience...zero...and I said, that looks like it would never work. I mean, if a guy that never had a need for camo knows it won't work, then what was everyone else thinking?

And, does this mean the Air Force will switch too. Don't they just have the same colors but in tiger stripe?

[SA Friday]

I would also like to go on record here. When the Army was switching to this uniform, I was a specialist about to be sergeant with no combat experience...zero...and I said, that looks like it would never work. I mean, if a guy that never had a need for camo knows it won't work, then what was everyone else thinking?

And, does this mean the Air Force will switch too. Don't they just have the same colors but in tiger stripe?

I hope so. ABUs suck donkey balls. We wouldn't use them in Iraq and Afghanistan. We were wearing tan nomex suits or 5.11s and XGO brand shirts. Nobody has mentioned this yet, but there is a lot of synthetic fiber in both the Army and AF new 'shoot here' uniforms. My old command learned the hard way what they do in explosions. It's like wearing fricken napalm that hasn't been lit yet.

I recommended to the AF use something similar to multi cam three times during the development and fielding of the ABU fiasco... The AF had their own personal hard on for identity during the uniform rush. Decisions being made by overpaid Generals that refused to acknowledge the AF actually has ground combatants in their branch. They were more concerned about the uniform not requiring ironing, it having AF blue in it, and bullet statements for their Fn OPRs. Wasn't a god-damned thing wrong with the BDU and DCU patterns.

One of the best uniforms I saw in my active time was the BDUs the Army chopper pilots used in Korea. They were BDU, but the colors looked like a normal uniform had been washed in a mud colored stain.

WHY can't they just beta test all future camo with the sniper units? They will tell you in a week if they are good or suck or if need a tweak somewhere.

BTW, Fatigues were in use my first two years active. I would take fatigues over the ABU in a heartbeat.

[The Heretic]

I think A-TACS will ultimately come out on top. Ive been wearing it for the past 8 months and wont wear anything else.

[mcantar18c]

I think A-TACS will ultimately come out on top. Ive been wearing it for the past 8 months and wont wear anything else.

Word is Rgt (and I would assume the rest of USASOC too) is gonna be wearing these by next year and the rest of the Army is gonna switch to Multis. You know how accurate the "word on the street" is though.
Personally I really like the design, from the pics I've seen it seems to work pretty well.