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    Amazing that they couldn't see that only the people who pay taxes....will be paying the taxes. We are so screwed. This just opens up more doors for socialist agenda.

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    except for a provision that required states to comply with new eligibility requirements for Medicaid or risk losing their funding.
    What's that? All Illegals get it before American Citizens?
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Haw haw haw?..

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    Decisions like this and the Connecticut eminent domain case (Kelo?) that said a commercial developer can take your home leads me to believe we cannot depend on the courts to prevent utter tyrrany. The best defense are those firearms in the safe...

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    Largest tax increase in history? Wonder if Romney can do something with that...
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    America is dead.

    We are no longer citizens, we are subjects.

    We just crossed Claire Wolfe's line.


    Doesn't matter if obamacare get repealed, the precedent is now set, the federal government owns us and we own nothing.
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    I can't believe Roberts voted this way!!!
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    Essentially the court is not all that conservative. It just loves the power of the state. Roberts had a real history with this before his nomination. There might be small consolation that the commerce clause isn't as universal as it used to be. Calling it a tax might also play well in the election.

    I'd had doubts that it would survive. I really expected it to be struck down as an overreach. This would be legal at the state level. The state does all sorts of mandates. OTOH, the individual mandate had been a Republican idea until recently so I wondered about the Bush judges. The Democraps had just wanted it to be state giveaways and Republicans saw it as individual responsibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogman2121 View Post
    Europe here we come.
    Try Bolshivik Soviet Union with the current regime in power that admire the Chinese system with no dissenting powers in government. What next Barrack's 5 year plan to move us forward in our cultural revolution.

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    WELCOME TO CANADA!!!! Let's replace the stars on the flags with little maple leafs......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack View Post
    Decisions like this and the Connecticut eminent domain case (Kelo?) that said a commercial developer can take your home leads me to believe we cannot depend on the courts to prevent utter tyrrany. The best defense are those firearms in the safe...

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