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    "If an individual does not maintain health insurance, the only consequence is that he must make an additional payment to the IRS when he pays his taxes," Roberts writes. He adds that this means "the mandate is not a legal command to buy insurance. Rather, it makes going without insurance just another thing the government taxes, like buying gasoline or earning an income."
    So let me get this right....if you DON'T have something, now the .gov can tax you on it. This is equivalent to saying that if you don't have a hybrid, you are going to get taxed 1%.

    I understand that those without insurance cost the country as a whole a lot of money...but THAT is what needs to get changed. no insurance...good luck!



    well, I'm going to get on my political soap box now and tell every single one of you that want to vote third party that this decision is the one and only thing that you need to consider when you cast your vote in november. If obama gets 4 more years...you ARE going to look at 20+ years of these kind of rulings. I read through the comments on here and see how pissed people are, some saying the constitution is gone, America is dead, welcome to Canada etc. etc. If you feel that way, November need to be the starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    So let me get this right....if you DON'T have something, now the .gov can tax you on it. This is equivalent to saying that if you don't have a hybrid, you are going to get taxed 1%.

    I understand that those without insurance cost the country as a whole a lot of money...but THAT is what needs to get changed. no insurance...good luck!



    well, I'm going to get on my political soap box now and tell every single one of you that want to vote third party that this decision is the one and only thing that you need to consider when you cast your vote in november. If obama gets 4 more years...you ARE going to look at 20+ years of these kind of rulings. I read through the comments on here and see how pissed people are, some saying the constitution is gone, America is dead, welcome to Canada etc. etc. If you feel that way, November need to be the starting point.
    Agreed, get out there and vote

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    To sum up the SCOTUS decision on the mandate: The federal government cannot force you to do whatever it wants. However, the federal government can TAX you to force you to do whatever it wants.

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    Not to mention as well that Romney is vowing to repeal Obamacare his first day in office.
    Let's give him the chance. If he doesn't then we can make our dissatisfaction known at that time. Cause I'm fucking positive obama isn't going to repeal it.
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    This article cracked me up

    People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
    I'm sure they'll like the healthcare just fine there.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/peopl...e-of-obamacare
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    Yeah, Leave it to our congress to be bipartisan when it comes to screwing the constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    This article cracked me up

    People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
    I'm sure they'll like the healthcare just fine there.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/peopl...e-of-obamacare

    hahaha I may bitch about some of the shite that happens here in this great country, but fuck any ideas about leaving! hahaha

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    Ya....Im going to be fine right here. The country needs us loudmouth gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Not to mention as well that Romney is vowing to repeal Obamacare his first day in office.
    Let's give him the chance. If he doesn't then we can make our dissatisfaction known at that time. Cause I'm fucking positive obama isn't going to repeal it.
    Repeal of Obamacare will stave off the complete collapse of the economy for a bit, but it doesn't matter as far as liberty is concerned because the SCOTUS just affirmed the right of the Federal Government to impose ANY restriction on your behavior by fiat.

    Wickard v. Filburn + Kelo v. City of New London + National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius = Constitution gone (forever ... or at least until the new constitution is ratified in the new republic but that will require a civil war first which will more likely result in the institution of a fascist police state and not a free republic).

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettodub View Post
    People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare
    I'm sure they'll like the healthcare just fine there.
    *Facepalm*
    Seriously folks, America was humanity's last bastion of liberty ... its gone now, there's no place else to go (and frankly things aren't going to get unbearable here for another couple decades and at the same time it'll get worse elsewhere. Thank God the wife and I couldn't have kids).
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by palepainter View Post
    Ya....Im going to be fine right here. The country needs us loudmouth gun owners.
    +1, and I'm not talking about asshats like Zimmerman. It's people like him and Raul Rodriguez that makes it easy for antigunfucktards (yeah that's right, considered one word to me) to point and say "...see look, we need MORE gun control.."

    Just a side note, not trying to derail

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Not to mention as well that Romney is vowing to repeal Obamacare his first day in office.
    I don't believe that POTUS has that power.

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