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    "I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it."
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    The other problem with the "let Obama win and we can start over" that these armchair resistance leaders don't think about is the piles and piles of bodies it takes to get there ... women, children, elderly, and most of a generation of young men will die. Many in agonizing ways.

    650,000 died between 1861-1865, a second civil war will dwarf that by at least a factor of 10. That was out of a total population of about 25 Million so 2.6% so that would be 9,100,000. Nine point one million people dead. And frankly we have better weapons and more tightly packed cities so it would likely be even higher.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
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    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot View Post
    This speaks volumes of your naivety. As I've stated before, the theory that a lot put forth of "Lets fuck everything over to fix it" is in its essence, moronic. In its application, outright dangerous.

    Is the old adage... "The only way to fix it is to break it into itsy bitsy pieces and watch it magically fix itself"? No? Didn't think so.

    If you really think there would any correction after your destruction, and we would have some beautiful society in the future, look around your fellow society. Who is walking among you. Do you really think that there is "reconstruction", the economy magically improves, you don't pay any taxes anymore, etc? All these idiots still exist in the country WITH you. THEY dictate what forms, not YOU.

    Your mindset is worse than the furthest left liberal ideology.

    If you want everyone to just start over, be prepared for no second amendment, no first, no forth. No constitution. No anything. Be prepared to live in squalor for your life, and subject your children to the same. You really think libertarians, tea party, whatever you are, will be the ones dictating or creating a new government, what, are you that retarded? I'm a REALIST. I live in REALITY. The majority of people out there are utterly mindless zombies with no common sense; you would be led by hedonists that hate your viewpoint, beliefs, and values.

    Fantasy is all real nice for fun and games, but do me a favor and don't fuck over a country. If you don't like the status quo, get off your ass and work on fixing it, don't shoot it in the head.

    "Everything tends towards chaos" it's the rule of the universe. Things typically fall apart, they don't typically build themselves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
    +1000000000

    Tired of hearing people say they will vote for Obama or a 3rd party candidate and rebuild. Rebuild what? Pretty flippin hard to rebuild it all once it's all gone! Russia has done a real fine job rebuilding what 70 years of liberalism tossed in there. The prick has gotten his way regarding healthcare, natural resources, taxation, the economy, etc. The only thing missing is the 2nd Amend.

    England gave up their guns over a stupid 1 time shooting- and they will NEVER get them back. They are falling further and further into a socialist hole. Just 100 years ago England made some of the finest guns in the world: Purdey, Churchill, Vickers, Webley, Lee Enfield, . Today you can't even carry a pocket knife on their Underground. How can you protect/defend yourself and your country once you've given up the tools to do it.

    Just let Obama get elected again and let the cocksuckers take the House. That 2nd Amend will be gone in a heartbeat. He will have nada to lose. He will make it a priority to ruin it all. Who cares if it get repealed 5 years later- we will all be out our firearms or at least...gun registration.
    There is no rebuilding from scratch, we start with what we have now and move forward. Going backward means every single person suffers needlessly and conservatives most of all.

    We've gone backward far enough but probably not far enough for the liberals. It is time for the adults to take control and that means putting the GOP in the Presidency, House, and Senate this year and in the coming years putting more conservatives and some libertarians at the helm.

    People are not basically good so any fantasy about burning it all down and starting over is crap. You'll turn this entire nation into a ghetto where the ends will truly justify the means. I don't think any right thinking person wants wholesale murder to be the rule of the day and that is exactly what you'll get if you burn it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tor Larson View Post
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    Just let Obama get elected again and let the cocksuckers take the House. That 2nd Amend will be gone in a heartbeat. He will have nada to lose. He will make it a priority to ruin it all. Who cares if it get repealed 5 years later- we will all be out our firearms or at least...gun registration.
    That will be the straw that broke the camel's back. There will be a large number of those who will be unwilling. They can tax the shit out of us for a few more months. If Obama wins again, you may be right and he may try a move on the 2nd. That would be his biggest miscalculation IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    The other problem with the "let Obama win and we can start over" that these armchair resistance leaders don't think about is the piles and piles of bodies it takes to get there ... women, children, elderly, and most of a generation of young men will die. Many in agonizing ways.

    650,000 died between 1861-1865, a second civil war will dwarf that by at least a factor of 10. That was out of a total population of about 25 Million so 2.6% so that would be 9,100,000. Nine point one million people dead. And frankly we have better weapons and more tightly packed cities so it would likely be even higher.
    You're exactly right. Armchair resistance leaders also forget that THEIR families will be part of that slaughter. Some people have this stupid idea that they'll survive the onslaught wholly in tact and that just isn't going to happen.

    You want to test it? Go to City Park tonight and see how you fare against the gangs when you try to take their turf. That'll wake your ass up if they don't kill you.

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    If we want good jobs and a bright economic future, for ourselves and for our kids, we must replace Obamacare. That is my mission. That is our work.

    this is what Romney put on his facebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    this is what Romney put on his facebook.
    Romney will put anything on his facebook if the wind is blowing the right way. The instant he gets elected, who knows what would happen.

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    So since it's considered a tax can you be jailed for tax evasion for not paying it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gos View Post
    Romney will put anything on his facebook if the wind is blowing the right way. The instant he gets elected, who knows what would happen.
    please tell me the alternative?

    1: vote 3rd party so Obama gets the majority vote and wins...obamacare stays in place, probably appoints another SCOTUS justice or two, and we all have probably 20 years of liberal rulings.

    2: don't vote, same thing as option 1.

    3: vote for obama thinking the ship will sink faster, depending on your condition most people will fall into deep poverty and rely on the .gov for everything. police state, don't comply, get locked up, don't see your kids...etc etc. goes downtown. maybe a revolution, but more than likely not well enough coordinated and too little too late.

    4: vote Romney, MAYBE he will do something to turn things around, repeal obamacare, appoint new SCOTUS justices to maintain the current slight favor to the conservative side...maybe something will come up and a liberal justice will have to retire. Romeny can work with the house, fight against the senate and try to get something positive done about the economy with putting us into deeper debt...maybe even spend less than what is coming in. these are things he said he would do, and definitely the opposite of what Obama is doing and would do for the next 4 years.



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    Thoughts on this view point for the decision?

    http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9398...ith-obamacare/
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