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    Quote Originally Posted by ChadAmberg View Post
    Remember, 55%+ of the population does not want obamacare, that should throw a few more % points into the R column from the undecideds.
    Yes, but what percentage of that population has insurance and won't have to pay the 1% tax?


    I've read some this morning but I am curious to see if this will affect people of medicaid, medicare, etc etc. how it will effect the businesses, the insurance companies, and the people paying for insurance. I know for fact since the law went into place my health coverage got worse and I paid more. So as far as I'm concerned it is definitely shit.
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    Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.
    Keep Calm and Carry.

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    So the gov taxing people to help out private industries is ok? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.
    You cannot legislate responsiblity or morality that is the problem with the government getting involved in things that are not their concern.

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    I believe the decision will end up being Obama's Waterloo.

    Downside is it has cost us the basic fundamentals of liberty so it's going to be a pryic victory this November.

    ONLY way I can see this working out with the survival of the Republic (and liberty in general) is if Tea Party conservatives take control of the house and senate, then President Romney becomes 100% self serving and does what the congress tells him to do (seeing the writing on the wall for the "Establishment Republican" way).

    Then we'll need to fast track a couple of constitutional amendments making it 100% illegal for the state to force you to buy anything and outlawing the federal government from providing health care services.

    Then maybe ... just maybe we'll see liberty survive another generation.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeT View Post
    I just ran outside with my rifle in hand. I was the only one out there, so it must not be "go-time" yet....
    It will never be time to go, this country it too fucking soft as a whole to do anything.

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    Why is it always 5-4 or 4-5 is this suppose to make me feel better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks its not that bad? It's a fee for people that wait until they're sick to get health insurance. Sounds kind of fair to the insurance companies.
    You seriously think is is perfectly acceptable that I am being taxed for simply existing?

    I carried insurance for 1 year, saw 2 doctors for a shoulder injury. Excluding that, I haven't presented a need to seek healthcare in over a decade. So now, I get to put up a chunk of my paycheck to pay to either buy insurance for myself, or pay the fine to fund medical care needed for those laid off by businesses unloading payroll to pay for Obamacare. Fuckin great. Woohoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScooterCO View Post
    What the F.....
    We are all F...ed
    Pass the ammo, the revolution should start now!
    I'm with you! But the sheep will continue until one day they wake up and they can't take a piss without getting permission from the government. Wake up and smell the socialism!

    Let's hope Romney can pull a win out this year otherwise I fear that we might get more than just 4 more years under Comrade Barack.
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    America is over.
    the Constitution died today.

    fucking sad.
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    "I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."

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