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    I got to work today and was notified that our carrier was increasing our premiums...
    12%
    Yes, that fast

    That's 12% of an already $780 a month for 3 people.

    I haven't seen a physician since 2008

    $%&# Obamacare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    This drives me nuts, how anyone can think that forcing insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions is even remotely a good idea ... seriously its the equivalent of forcing car companies to cover pre-existing damage. So I could go buy the shell of a car from a junk yard and force my insurance company to restore it for me for free? Getting rid of the lifetime cap means they have to restore it and then modify it.

    Plus, dropping you for "no reason" is just stupid ... it would be like McDonalds telling someone in line that they won't sell them a burger, all they do is lose a customer. I guarantee you most of those "dropped for no reason" folk were dropped for a reason.

    See the purpose of Insurance is to protect you from an UNEXPECTED loss (and make a profit doing so), once you remove the word "Unexpected" its no longer Insurance, its Welfare. Forcing private companies providing welfare is just communism, plain and simple (and its not economically sustainable either).

    No, its the end of the free world. Its also the end of the Insurance industry and probably the US (if not global) Economy. Everyone can now expect their insurance to rise significantly.
    +1

    My wife has Type 1 diabetes and even she doesn't think pre-existing conditions should be covered. It doesn't make any sense.

    And your anology with the car is spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Good, please stop trying to make awful analogies and put words in my mouth. We'll both be better off.
    My analogy was perfect.

    There is zero difference between expecting a car insurance company to repair damage done to your car before you bought the policy and expecting a health insurance company to cover an illness you had before you bought the policy.

    In fact the car insurance company and the health insurance company call it the exact same thing; a pre-existing condition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    I got to work today and was notified that our carrier was increasing our premiums...
    12%
    Yes, that fast

    That's 12% of an already $780 a month for 3 people.

    I haven't seen a physician since 2008

    $%&# Obamacare
    Can't the states revoke Obamacare? I would be shocked it Georgia didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    My analogy was perfect.

    There is zero difference between expecting a car insurance company to repair damage done to your car before you bought the policy and expecting a health insurance company to cover an illness you had before you bought the policy.

    In fact the car insurance company and the health insurance company call it the exact same thing; a pre-existing condition.
    I guess the difference is your car doesn't die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I guess the difference is your car doesn't die.
    Only if you let it. You can always PAY and have it fixed, after all this is a capitalist country, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    I guess the difference is your car doesn't die.
    An irrelevant appeal to emotion.

    So because something is more important that means you have the right to steal? Because that's basically what forced coverage of pre-existing conditions is ... it goes against the entire purpose and design of Insurance and (like I said before) turns Insurance into Welfare.


    Hell since health care is so important maybe we should just force all doctors and nurses into indentured servitude.


    Folks this isn't about health care this is about basic liberty. I guess the solace I can take from this is that those that don't see how damaging this is to liberty will be comfortable in their chains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BUC303 View Post
    Only if you let it. You can always PAY and have it fixed, after all this is a capitalist country, no?
    The US has elements of a lot of different economic models. I'm saying that one reason that people are for the Act is to keep people from dying (pre-exsting conditions). A dent in your car doesn't eventually make your whole car fall apart.

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    More people admitted to the hospitals,,, will not becoming out walking.

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    And amazingly, the Gubment can now feed the hungry as food trucks are seen leaving the rear of the hospital and later distributing weeks of food to the poor.

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