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    Now I am one of those hard right Christians everyone always talk about. I might not agree with your views and theology, but that's the great thing about America. However, I know my faith and understand the saying, "hate the sin, love the sinner". I actually completely agree with your moves on resolving this one Luigi. ANY crime is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetglideok View Post
    You already know the religion is frowned upon in a country built on, and based on christian faith.
    I have to address this... Contrary to popular belief, Jefferson did NOT support Christianity, he was a very outspoken agnostic, and didn't support one religion over another- He even went as far as saying something to the effect of "The 'in God we trust' is not talking about one god in particular but any god you freely choose to believe in."

    Luigi, never met you, but I hope to change that someday, stick to your guns buddy! I support anyone's freedom to practice whatever religion they want... I don't care if it's Satanism, Norse Paganism, Jewish, or Jedi, this is the land of freedom and we can't pick which freedom gets special treatment or not based on our agreement with it or lack thereof. Let's just imagine for two seconds if this was a "Vote Mohammad" sign, or maybe a "Vote Krishna" sign, would it be any different? I don't see how it would be. That's the beauty of living here. As far as "looking for attention" this hypocracy needs to be brought to light, hate crimes are silly and this whole thing is pointing that out. And if it's a religion you don't agree with, tough. I don't agree with Islam, but it's not my place to vandalize mosques and Muslim's homes...
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    This story now is on the front page of Drudge.

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    The story is on Drudge now. Your going nation wide now.
    "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

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    Dang, you really are a celebrity now.
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    Girlscouts? Hmmm, I don't know... I think it's kinda dangerous to teach young girls self esteem and leadership skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I have to address this... Contrary to popular belief, Jefferson did NOT support Christianity, he was a very outspoken agnostic, and didn't support one religion over another- He even went as far as saying something to the effect of "The 'in God we trust' is not talking about one god in particular but any god you freely choose to believe in."
    ...

    Actually you may want to look into "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton before you make that statement. He puts a pretty big question mark into the perceived history and believes of TJ.

    Just another side of the story to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    Actually you may want to look into "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton before you make that statement. He puts a pretty big question mark into the perceived history and believes of TJ.

    Just another side of the story to consider.

    Clay Jenkinson, the guy who does the Thomas Jefferson Hour ripped Bartons book up pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    Holy shit 105 posts! And that is without counting the OP!
    Don't say I don't keep you guys entertained...
    Exactly!
    Although some people complain about a thread/situation, but this type of thread is entertaining for members.
    However, I hope you or your local police find that punk@ss kid who did that to your property.

    Another note. Yes, the sign might just cost $25.
    It is core ethics , value, and principle.
    I have a US flag I bought for $1 at walmart in front of my lawn. If someone mess around with my flag, I would be unhappy.
    I don't care it is Baptist or Baathist flag, they better not mess around with my $1 flag inside my property.

    BTW, I guess HOA neighborhood does pay off sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    Actually you may want to look into "The Jefferson Lies" by David Barton before you make that statement. He puts a pretty big question mark into the perceived history and believes of TJ.

    Just another side of the story to consider.
    That hack Barton puts a pretty big question mark into the concept of universal reality. Instead of assembling the facts to form an opinion, he forms his facts to support his opinion.

    I especially question his treatment (or lack thereof) of Jefferson's rewriting of the King James Bible, wherein Jefferson excised the theology from the text, and Barton's entire interpretation of Jefferson's role in the Aiken Bible affair... best to put this book in the 'historical fiction' section. (I happen to also support this review of Barton and his book:
    http://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-sepa...on-of-whoppers)

    Anyway, back to task. Now that this is nationwide, this Epicurean wants to know when the Satanist is doing "Good Morning America"? And when you get your own reality show are you going to invite us to the shoot-out episode with Colorado Guns?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPrena View Post
    Exactly!
    Although some people complain about a thread/situation, but this type of thread is entertaining for members.
    However, I hope you or your local police find that punk@ss kid who did that to your property.

    Another note. Yes, the sign might just cost $25.
    It is core ethics , value, and principle.
    I have a US flag I bought for $1 at walmart in front of my lawn. If someone mess around with my flag, I would be unhappy.
    I don't care it is Baptist or Baathist flag, they better not mess around with my $1 flag inside my property.

    BTW, I guess HOA neighborhood does pay off sometimes.
    Well said. That's what it really boils down to. It's not the content of what was on the property, it's not the underlying message or any of that, it's that someone trespassed onto Luigi's property and did something destructive to his property. Doesn't matter if it was a flag, a poster, a sign, or a wooden sculpture, vandalism/destruction of property is still illegal and wrong.
    "There is no news in the truth, and no truth in the news."
    "The revolution will not be televised... Instead it will be filmed from multiple angles via cell phone cameras, promptly uploaded to YouTube, Tweeted about, and then shared on Facebook, pending a Wi-Fi connection."

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