So now that the government can prosecute you for not buying health insurace what is next?

[akumadiavolo]

If they can fine...er...tax you for the inactivity, they can arrest you and prosecute you for not paying the fine...er...tax.

You can pick nits all day long about how you'll be prosecuted for not paying the fine...er...tax thing, but it still means you can be prosecuted for not buying health insurance.

Furthermore, now that the precedent has been set there will be plenty of laws coming down the pike that force you to do something or be fined...er...taxed.

No, you cannot ever be arrested or prosecuted in any way, shape or form. The worst they can do is take it out of any future refunds until it's paid off. They can't even garnish wages for it.

It's amazing how little people know about something yet still feel the need to ignorantly bitch about it.

I am not happy about the law, but at least I took the time to learn about it before I passed judgement.

[akumadiavolo]

It will be treated like any other tax, brother. Not paying your taxes is a crime.

Good video. West is a smart guy.

No, it's not like any other tax. Please do some research. The worst they can ever do for not paying it is take it out of your tax refund. If you don't get a refund there is literally nothing they can do about it until you do get a refund.

[Teufelhund]

No, you cannot ever be arrested or prosecuted in any way, shape or form. The worst they can do is take it out of any future refunds until it's paid off. They can't even garnish wages for it.

It's amazing how little people know about something yet still feel the need to ignorantly bitch about it.

I am not happy about the law, but at least I took the time to learn about it before I passed judgement.

What in the world would lead you to believe something like that? Are there other taxes to which you are beholden that you can simply opt out of, or do you think because this is a new tax we'll all be on the honor system for paying it?

Seriously, enlighten us as to how this is an optional tax. Failing that, please describe any piece of legislation that has ever been handed down that the government has no ability to enforce.

[akumadiavolo]

What in the world would lead you to believe something like that? Are there other taxes to which you are beholden that you can simply opt out of, or do you think because this is a new tax we'll all be on the honor system for paying it?

Seriously, enlighten us as to how this is an optional tax. Failing that, please describe any piece of legislation that has ever been handed down that the government has no ability to enforce.

I believe that because I actually did research into the law instead of just amusing it would be like any other tax.

It's not an optional tax, I never said that so I have no idea why you are saying that. I simply said that the punishment for not paying it is not like other taxes. Go read the law instead of listening to Fox News.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/...ng-to-collect/

read that article, it clearly spells out how little authority the government will have to enforce the law. Or I have the appropriate excerpt below

"Finally, there is the issue of whether the IRS can collect the tax if someone refuses to either buy insurance or pay the fine. The ACA says the IRS should enforce the law by imposing a tax penalty—but then effectively blocks the agency from using most of the tools it normally uses to go after tax scofflaws.

The ACA bars the IRS from bringing a criminal enforcement case against someone who refuses to pay the non-insurance penalty. And it makes it very difficult, if not impossible, for it to enforce a tax lien. Law professors Jordan Barry and Bryan Camp have a nice piece in Tax Notes explaining it all.

That leaves only one tool—the IRS can subtract the penalty from any refund it owes a taxpayer. But that applies only if the IRS happens to owe somebody a refund. These days, two-thirds of taxpayers get one, but it is usually their choice."

[02ducky]

We need a middle finger smiley!

Just sickening...

[Ronin13]

Go read the law instead of listening to Fox News.

I've heard this before... but can't put my finger on it. Oh! That's right! Libtards constantly spew sh*t like this all the time. While no, any news outlet is not a great place to get full, factual information from, Fox is not the worst place (it's better than CNN). Tax treated normally or not, it's still a taxation for not having something and it is wrong. Now, aren't you supposed to be at Red Rocks right now for your hippy fest?

[Teufelhund]

Just because you found some internet news article paraphrasing the bill for you, doesn't make your analysis true, nor does it justify your holier-than-thou attitude. For all the "research" you did that you're so proud of, I can probably find internet news articles from less left-leaning sources saying the exact opposite.

While I have read quite a bit of the actual bill, I admit I have not read all the pages of the ACA, so I don't know that you (or Forbes) are wrong, but I find it highly unlikely. I will be profoundly surprised the day the U.S. Government levies a tax that they can't enforce.

[cofi]

i dont know why we couldnt do what the whole rest of the world does and offer free healthcare instead of this crazy shit

[Teufelhund]

i dont know why we couldnt do what the whole rest of the world does and offer free healthcare instead of this crazy shit

That's sarcasm, right?

[akumadiavolo]

Just because you found some internet news article paraphrasing the bill for you, doesn't make your analysis true, nor does it justify your holier-than-thou attitude. For all the "research" you did that you're so proud of, I can probably find internet news articles from less left-leaning sources saying the exact opposite.

While I have read quite a bit of the actual bill, I admit I have not read all the pages of the ACA, so I don't know that you (or Forbes) are wrong, but I find it highly unlikely. I will be profoundly surprised the day the U.S. Government levies a tax that they can't enforce.

I did far more research than that. I just found the quickest and easiest source I could find that had all of the important info, I had never even seen that article before I read it to see if it had the info I wanted. You can go find any number of other sources that say the same thing, it's the truth. If you can find a reliable source that contradicts it I will happily read and consider it.

And I don't know what world you live in, but telling people to actually do research and know what they are talking about is not "holier-than-thou", it's common sense. It no different than the "guns are bad" crowd that I am sure almost everyone here has to deal with. I just in general get sick of seeing people ranting about this and that when they clearly don't have the knowledge base to be talking about an issue.