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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Xring, spend two weeks working bodily injury claims, and when the first request for Remote Healing (the healer concentrates on your ailments, from their office, while you are at your home) comes across your desk, just remember how you are going to break the mold of the evil insurance company because your insured NEEDS six months of remote healing, a year and a half after her 10mph fender bender.
    I couldn't help myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmckay2 View Post
    I don't get your point. Cancer patients are the number 1 people group denied care in both Canada and England and there systems are completely government controlled. Makes sense too as cancer survival rates are comparatively low and costs as astronomically high. Medicare and Medicaid is infamous for their denial of anything that isn't pretty basic and routine. Worst yet is they pay practices less each year and with AMP coming out soon that will only go further down. As their reimbursement drops, practices don't accept their plans any more. Pretty soon either no one gets covered or practices go out of business. There are people who fall through the cracks and it's a shame but it happens in every system they are just different people. If your mom doesn't get cancer care under her government plan in this perfect eutopia, then what? Will you call for private care over government care? No system is perfect but the one with less government is more flexible, independent, less corrupt and likely provides better care. Getting care to those who can't afford it or have pre existing conditions should be handled at a local level and through charitable organizations. Most Americans do care about others. Don't confusion anger of taxation and government tyranny for an uncaring attitude. I do care but I help with my own money willingly, I don't vote to force others to also throw in their money by force.

    one reason the United States has the great medical care we have is the free market. GOOD Doctors stay because there is money here. Now the Government is going to make it "affordable" and I See allot of doctors leaving soon. How long would you stay if the government increased your taxes but cut your pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Well no kidding it's purpose is profit. Insurance companies ARE businesses after all and that is the reason for running a business, TO MAKE MONEY. However, if insurance companies didn't payout benefits as often as some people claim they don't then they would fail because people would choose to take their insurance business elsewhere. Their vested interest is keeping policy holders, not running them off because they fail to payout. No one would even bother buying insurance if they always had to hire a lawyer to get their benefits like you say they do.

    If you don't like insurance companies, then don't buy insurance. Just pay for your medical expenses from your own pocket.

    The whole "insurance companies are the devil" argument is no better than the "corporations are the devil" argument we hear form the 99%'ers.
    Unfortunatly there is no place to pay cash for basic medical needs at a reasonable price. i posted on this very forum asking where a clinic with basic medical services that took cash could be found. No answers. The one i was using started accepting medical insurance resulting in a tripling of their rates. So we have what amounts to a monopoly with the medical services and insurance companys and now the goverment in cahoots. If somone wants to buy insurance for high dollar medical procedures thats their choice and should remain their choice even if single payer was instituted. If somone doesnt purchase that insurance or have the money to pay for it they should not receive that procedure if it more than the single payer health care can afford via a balanced budget. Eliminating the option for a normal healthy guy to get antibiotics or a few stiches for cash is wrong. But thats what is going on they want a monopoly. You talk against Obamacare but support the insurance industry, shit they wrote the affordable health care act. What industry wouldnt support a monopoly for its services. The insurance/ medical monopoly is forcing upon me a level of technology in my medical that I choose not to accept.
    Thats Liberty. Thats Freedom.

    You act like Im a deadbeat or a hypocrite. I dont smoke i dont drink i eat right im fit(sort of) and I exercise. I and my employers paid for health insurance for thirtyfive years. I have never had a operation or a broken bone. Most years i dont even see a doctor. I could sure use all that money i spent on policys/bets/derivitives now. You guys want to buy your policys for next gen medical procedures be my guest. Just dont say I have to pay for your high tech procedures via forcing me into your gambling pool because i want a handful of antibiotics or a few stiches every couple years. If we really wanted affordable health care it would be easy.

    1. Outlaw medical malpractice suites
    2. eliminate licensing for medical practice
    3. establish a online nationwide feedback database for medical practicioners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    Unfortunatly there is no place to pay cash for basic medical needs at a reasonable price. i posted on this very forum asking where a clinic with basic medical services that took cash could be found. No answers.
    Walgreens Take Care Clinic will take cash and is reasonably priced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    i agree with this statement. this is what churches, religious institutions and philanthropic organizations, should be providing.(not building mega churches) and when the good hearted Americans donate to those organizations to fund them, it is of their own free will. Not forced.
    The Shriners Hosptial for Children is a super fine example of how a charitable
    organization can provide superior care for free...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
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    1. Outlaw medical malpractice suites
    2. eliminate licensing for medical practice
    3. establish a online nationwide feedback database for medical practicioners.
    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    i personally dont think they should outlaw medical malpractice lawsuits.

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    What do you call the guy who graduated medical school with a C grade?

    Doctor.

    That is medical malpractice suits must continue. However if the juries were smarter than the bullshit cases would get tossed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Walgreens Take Care Clinic will take cash and is reasonably priced.
    Thank you thats helpful, will they suture or is it pills and thermometers only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xring View Post
    Thank you thats helpful, will they suture or is it pills and thermometers only?
    Shots, pills, etc. Their site says minor wound closure with skin adhesive only. My family uses it because they take walk-ins. Even our family doctor has so many patients they can't see you for a week. And what good does that do if you're sick now?

    http://takecarehealth.com/what-we-treat.aspxhttp://takecarehealth.com/what-we-treat.aspx

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