Clips vs Magazines

[WillysWagon]

At work one day I was talking about vests Police, Military and the such use to hold gear (sidearm, magazines, shells, etc..).

When I mentioned some were made to hold several 'magazines', she responded, "Why to they need to read so much?"

I just looked at her and cracked up, right about the same time, she understood the 'magazine' is what the ammo fit in to go into the weapon.

We both cracked up then, I still kid her to this day about that.

[shrapmetal]

it's important to use the correct terminology.

just like your AR or AK type rifle is an "asault rifle". well if it isn't select fire, then it isn't a true 'assault rifle'. The media and anti's are fueled by their disregard for facts. Why get caught up in the same crap?

use proper terminology where appropriate and educate those around you to the fact.

i can see the point with that, but we do not speak proper english all the time. if you come to my house and ask where i keep my magazines. i'll reply next to the toilet. when someone posts pics of a gun people reply thats cool. it's doesnt mean that the gun is cold. heck bad doesn't even mean bad half the time in this day and age.

i understand the difference between the two, i guess i don't see this one as being a big deal. it is not a term that is labeled evil by the media. it's not a mistake that could cause one harm. although it would be funny to watch someone try and put a stripper clip into the mag well of an AR. assult rife is a term invented to try and demonize our guns. in my house i don't like the term weapon. i feel that that word is used to describe something meant to cause another person harm. my firearm collection is for sporting purposes there for they are not weapons at all. could they be used as weapons? of course they could but that is not why i have them. a hammer could also be a weapon as well as a car. those types of words i choose carefully.

i can say that i use both terms to describe the same thing. with my chicken pecking typing skills clip comes out alot easier for me.

what is the point that a word becomes acceptable slang? we may not ever like it but it happens.

i want to make sure everyone knows im not upset in anyway over this disscussion. i'm just tring to understand why some people might feel that way.

[Mista Bukit]

[poke] Maybe somebody should publish "The Politcaly Correct Guide To Assault Weapons"
Never call ammunition “ammo" or heaven forbid "bullets" it shall be known as "self contained projectile device”
An AR-15 shall not be referred to as, a "gun" or a "rifle" and never an "assault weapon", in the future always say “US government approved personal defense mechanism”
Clip /Magazine – “Self contained projectile storage and feeding unit”

[GearHead]

ARs are home land defense tools.

[Gman]

ARs are pseudo-assault rifles. They are no different than any other semi-auto rifle...other than their looks.

I never had a problem understanding the difference between mags and clips. I try to educate others to the differences.

[HunterCO]

Why do gun owners say an "ASSUALT RIFLE" is full auto no offense to any one but my FA has never assaulted anyone. For that matter I don't even own a gun that has assaulted anyone.

A so called "ASSAULT RIFLE" is any firearm you use to assault someone. I don't understand why gun owners give in to the libs and say it's not an assault rifle unless it's FA.

They are all firearms period I don't get it. [?]

[Ice Pirate]

Yeah, I know, he did his demonstration with Live Ammo, and I've already talked to him about that. :roll:

WTF does that have to do with it??? If you handle a firearm properly it makes no difference if it's unloaded, loaded, broke, cocked locked and ready to go, drove over by a tank, smashed with a sludge hammer I don't get your point you lost me?????

He did good made it very simple!

Maybe it's just me, but as a small arms instructor, I would NEVER use live ammo to demonstrate anything unless I was on a range and all had eye and ear protection. It's just not safe to be charging live rounds for the purpose of demonstration.

Remember what happened to that Cop in a room full of kids? Murphy is alive and well and as soon as you start thinking, "That'll never happen to me..." "BANG" and somebody's bleeding.

Use dummy rounds, snap caps or nothing. Never demonstrate with live rounds unless you intend to fire.

[HunterCO]

Yeah, I know, he did his demonstration with Live Ammo, and I've already talked to him about that. :roll:

WTF does that have to do with it??? If you handle a firearm properly it makes no difference if it's unloaded, loaded, broke, cocked locked and ready to go, drove over by a tank, smashed with a sludge hammer I don't get your point you lost me?????

He did good made it very simple!

Maybe it's just me, but as a small arms instructor, I would NEVER use live ammo to demonstrate anything unless I was on a range and all had eye and ear protection. It's just not safe to be charging live rounds for the purpose of demonstration.

Remember what happened to that Cop in a room full of kids? Murphy is alive and well and as soon as you start thinking, "That'll never happen to me..." "BANG" and somebody's bleeding.

Use dummy rounds, snap caps or nothing. Never demonstrate with live rounds unless you intend to fire.

You are right I will empty my CCW weapon of any live rounds and only carry snap caps or dummy rounds from here on out. I never knew that I was so stupid for carrying much less handling a firearm with live ammo.

I never knew that unless I intended to fire my gun it was not acceptable to have a "LIVE" round in the chamber. So much for CCW I sure hope the bad guys get scared when I fire my snap cap.

Once again...

WTF does that have to do with it??? If you handle a firearm properly it makes no difference

What part of that do you not understand???

[Ice Pirate]

First off Hunter, you don't have to get pissed off! I'm not jumping in your ass and I'm NOT saying that ALL guns have to be kept cleared and safe until you want to pull the trigger. Thats really pushing the point way too far. I'm talking about TEACHING here, not carrying as a duty weapon or anything else.

All I'm saying, is that if you are DEMONSTRATING with a weapon, that it is much safer to use dummy rounds than live rounds. Yes, IF you are handling your weapon properly and safely, WHILE DEMONSTRATING, nothing SHOULD go wrong. But, IF you are just demonstrating, why run the risk of accidentally setting off a round? That is just a risk that in a class room setting, is un-necessary and unsafe.

If I'm demonstrating how to change the blade on my Table Saw, I'm not going to do it while it's plugged in. No, it shouldn't start and chop off my fingers, but why take the risk? Furthermore, just because I unplug the saw to change the blades, doesn't mean I have to keep it unpluged until I'm ready to cut a board.

There are levels of risk that are acceptable in a training environment, and levels of risk that are not. Demonstrating loading and clearing proceedures with Live ammunition, is not. It is a fact that the vast majority of accidental or inadvertent discharges happen during loading and clearing proceedures.

You might say WTF, but I say, WHY RUN THE RISK if you don't have to?

[shrapmetal]

i wouls say it would depend on the situation. at home with a camera on the tripod where i know i have good muzzle control. no big deal i would use live rounds. in a classroom where i don't know whats on the other side of the wall and a room full of people in front of me. dummy rounds for sure. i know a guy that shoot off his middle finger with his "unloaded" 1911. you cant say enough about muzzle control. live or dummy ammo always keep an eye "not your finger" on your muzzle.