Perspectives On Capacity

[JohnTRourke]

here's the difference
if a cop fire off all their rounds, reload 2 or 3 times and keep firing at one guy.
There's an internal investigation, the cop gets a paid vacation and he's cleared 99.99999999999999999% of the time.

if YOU do that in a private citizen, esp at one guy, it's going to be LONG EXPENSIVE court process to prove you weren't a bad guy and even then you still might get railroaded (see zimmerman)

Read Massad Ayoob.

Prepared is prepared and 2 is 1, 1 is none, but you better be DAMN SURE of where and why you fired each of those rounds.

Now, when things go to hell, and the looters/zombies/what have you's are out, all rules are off.

[WETWRKS]

This is the reason I chose the FiveseveN as my carry gun. High ammo capacity. With just the mag in the gun I typically have more ammo than a lot carry with 2extra mags. Even more when I have spare mags with me.

[SideShow Bob]

The number one thing that saves lives in combat is superior, overwhelming fire power.

Ask a Vietnam Vet about that one...........

[FireMoth]

I would submit, for your consideration, that if you can assuredly handle a a conflict situation in 5-6 rounds, without reload, etc., that you MIGHT have just committed murder.

Trained, prepared, and capable professionals don't enter conflicts they choose the timing of that light, why would anyone preparing for the possibility of surprise expect to do better?

So, if you can be certain of getting it done in 6 or less, then you probably could have solved it without breaking leather

[Bailey Guns]

I would submit, for your consideration, that if you can assuredly handle a a conflict situation in 5-6 rounds, without reload, etc., that you MIGHT have just committed murder.

Trained, prepared, and capable professionals don't enter conflicts they choose the timing of that light, why would anyone preparing for the possibility of surprise expect to do better?

So, if you can be certain of getting it done in 6 or less, then you probably could have solved it without breaking leather

Maybe I don't fully understand what you're saying here, but I don't think I really agree with that. Many people that carry a gun carry nothing more that a 5 or 6 shot revolver for their protection. Regardless of the merits of that decision, it is what it is and I'd say it's very common. I seriously doubt the fact they weren't carrying 1 or 2 reloads would have any bearing on any criminal or civil issue they might face.

I'd also say that any time you kill someone you've committed homicide. The question is whether or not it's justifiable.

[Danimal]

I read somewhere that in the average shoot out involving police, the officers involved fired more than 30 rounds each. I don't remember the source so I could be mistaken, but in the average crisis situation in which you are forced to react with lethal force, I would assume you would need to react similarly. Now you have to take into account that you are not a police officer, and have no obligation to bring the criminal to justice. You are only supposed to protect life and your residence from a threat. So if you fire one shot and your assailant heads for cover, get the hell out of there if you have the opportunity. If you need to stay and fight to protect yourself or others, be prepared to handle the situation as best as you can. Training and practice are worth the thousands of bullets, if you train and prepare properly.

[Chad4000]

Point blank.... I like high cap because I assume I'm going to miss.... I'm a pretty decent shot, but I think one in three (or worse for that matter) on target depending on the sitch, would be considered a success..

[The Heretic]

Better to have to many than not enough!

[crashdown]

Better to have to many than not enough!

Better to have too many, than to many.... or was that said to you guys too many times?

+two

[centrarchidae]

I've heard of the amount of rounds a person had on them at the time of a defensive shooting being brought up in court to show the defendant's intent was "looking for a war." Why would one need so many rounds on them unless they were looking for trouble? But the fact is you need extra rounds and mags to deal with malfunctions more then actually having to deploy them. One mag with six rounds could easily turn into a gun that doesn't work and no way to fix it.

When and where did this happen?