Did You Know: TABOR Unconstitutioality Lawsuit

[theGinsue]

So today I dropped by the El Paso County website and saw something I hadn't heard about.

This may be old news for many of you as this lawsuit was filed in May 2012, but it was news to me. I searched the forums and found nothing previously posted on this (unless it occurred in the data loss area of the Great CO-AR15 Crash of 2012). It's quite possible that this case has already run it's course, but given the speed (or lack thereof) of our Judicial system, I'm inclined to believe this is still an active case.

It seems many of our states elected officials are so peeved about the citizens of this great state deciding for themselves to put shackles on the money grubbing/tax collecting vermin that they've brought a lawsuit claiming TABOR is unconstitutional.

The gist of the lawsuit is that Costitutionally are to be ruled (we word, not theirs) by a "Representative Democracy" which is Cnstitutionally allowed to tax the citizens at THEIR discretion, not the citizens. Their claim is that "Direct Democracy" (where the citizens get to vote directly and not via an elected representative) is unconstitutional and since this is how TABOR became law, it is unconstitutional.

Maybe they missed the beginning of the Constitution where it says "We the People". They must have also misunderstood President Lincoln in his Gettysburg Address when he stated "...to ensure the survival of America's representative democracy, that the "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Here's the El Paso County website link to the document filed with the courts:
http://www.elpasoco.com/Documents/Ta...%205-23-11.pdf

Someone OD me on Thorazine as the lunatics are surely in control of the asylum.

[SNAFU]

Course they forgot the words to the "Pledge of Allegence" too

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


http://bellpolicy.org/node/1196

[josh7328]

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

Fixed it for you.

[lpgasman]

Fixed it for you.

Thank you, let's quote the whole pledge. Oh right its not PC.

[Zombie Steve]

They bypassed TABOR several years ago with referendums C and D (one passed, one didn't... don't remember which was which). It was the typical funny dog and pony show - "We're going to help roads, bridges, schools and infrastructure without any new taxes!!!". Well, they were right. There wasn't any new taxes. Citizens just didn't get a TABOR refund any more.

As soon as it passed, there was a big fight as to where all the money would go. I'm sure they thought about roads, bridges, schools and infrastructure for at least 5-10 minutes...


Quirky as the guy is... TABOR (Taxpayer Bill Of Rights) was the brainchild of Doug Bruce. Everyone hates the guy and tries to railroad him as much as possible, but he's the only guy I can think of that's even tried to achieve some kind of fiscal responsibility in this state.

[theGinsue]

Quirky as the guy is... TABOR (Taxpayer Bill Of Rights) was the brainchild of Doug Bruce. Everyone hates the guy and tries to railroad him as much as possible, but he's the only guy I can think of that's even tried to achieve some kind of fiscal responsibility in this state.

Agreed. I don't care much for Douglas Bruce "the person", but Douglas Bruce "the citizens watchdog" is someone I fully support.

[theGinsue]

Interesting; only one comment.

[Irving]

I'm too busy with other things to fully express my anger about this. Would you mind doing it for me Thomas?

[Troublco]

Another example of the arrogance of the Elitists. How dare the unwashed masses believe that they could possibly think for themselves? They are merely backward children, and we must think for them.

This is another example that shows that a great deal of reining in is needed...and the truth of that line from the movie, the Patriot, where the lead character says something to the effect of "an elected legislature can trample a man's rights as easily as a King".

[theGinsue]

I'm too busy with other things to fully express my anger about this. Would you mind doing it for me Thomas?

Yep; got you covered.


Patrick -so true!