Interesting look at why America is screwed

[jackthewall81]

Might be touchy for some of you baby boomers. But is none the less interesting.

http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/1...y-boomers-vs-y

[aahorn]

when they were talking about drafting highschool grads into 1 year military service/2 year civilian service...

this is what we should be doing with people on unemployment.. down on luck? need some bucks between jobs? well there is some trash on the street, graffiti on the buildings. no more free money, you gotta do work to earn some money

[Zundfolge]

when they were talking about drafting highschool grads into 1 year military service/2 year civilian service...

this is what we should be doing with people on unemployment.. down on luck? need some bucks between jobs? well there is some trash on the street, graffiti on the buildings. no more free money, you gotta do work to earn some money

That would just morph into yet another program that turns the Fed.Gov into your mama and the recipients into glorified children suckling at her teat. It would also end up having an adverse effect on our military readiness as well.



No, we need to do away with ALL forms of welfare, assistance and subsidy. Period. Absolute and complete elimination of 90%+ of the functions of the Federal Government.

Once upon a time there used to be "Mutual Aid Societies" in pretty much ever community across America (we see the remnants of these once great organizations in The Elks, The Shriners, Rotary Clubs and the Oddfellows). We didn't have government run welfare we had Americans freely giving a hand to their fellow Americans in their time of need. We need to return to those days, we need to return to charity and not government administered entitlements.

Not only did these private charities work significantly more efficiently with the funds they had, they also firmed up the bonds between people ... they strengthened the American character and they didn't undermine the character and spirit of the very people they were tasked with helping.

When one man freely gives to another ... when the other receives humbly and with gratitude BOTH men are made better and neither man lives at the behest of the other.

It is the ONLY way we can again be called free men.

[flan7211]

It is the ONLY way we can again be called free men.[/quote]


Unfortunately free men aren't feed men. Most seem to want the .gov spoon over freedom.

[HoneyBadger]

That would just morph into yet another program that turns the Fed.Gov into your mama and the recipients into glorified children suckling at her teat. It would also end up having an adverse effect on our military readiness as well.



No, we need to do away with ALL forms of welfare, assistance and subsidy. Period. Absolute and complete elimination of 90%+ of the functions of the Federal Government.

Once upon a time there used to be "Mutual Aid Societies" in pretty much ever community across America (we see the remnants of these once great organizations in The Elks, The Shriners, Rotary Clubs and the Oddfellows). We didn't have government run welfare we had Americans freely giving a hand to their fellow Americans in their time of need. We need to return to those days, we need to return to charity and not government administered entitlements.

Not only did these private charities work significantly more efficiently with the funds they had, they also firmed up the bonds between people ... they strengthened the American character and they didn't undermine the character and spirit of the very people they were tasked with helping.

When one man freely gives to another ... when the other receives humbly and with gratitude BOTH men are made better and neither man lives at the behest of the other.

It is the ONLY way we can again be called free men.

This.

[Ronin13]

I've been paying into SS for almost 15 years now, since I started working at 14. I've been pretty much constantly employed since (with the exception of my Jr year of high school and my freshman year of college) and paying into the system. I realized years ago that there is a very good chance that I will never get social security benefits when I retire. I'm planning on paying my own way through retirement and not getting squat from any of these programs. Now, where I have mixed feelings is that if I'm not going to reap the benefits of SS when I retire, why should I have to contribute? But the flip side of that is that my parents (who are roughly 10 years or so from retirement age) will get SS when they retire, so paying in helps them. See where this makes for some confusion, I honestly would rather my SS deductions go to me for my own investments.

[UncleDave]

He's right on the money. My old man was telling me this back in the early 80's. told me to make sure I take care of my own savings and investment for retirement, because when I got there his generation would have milked the system dry.

[flan7211]

What I find hilarious is you have all these 50+ conservatives complaining about the welfare state but wouldn't dare risk getting rid of it.

[Uberjager]

I wouldn't entirely blame the baby boomers the "Greatest" generation has fucked over America a good bit more.

[StagLefty]

So I paid SS taxes for 50 some years and now I shouldn't get any return ?
Also paid Medicare taxes and pay a monthly premium now to have Medicare insurance.