Senate UN gun treaty thing?

[rocktot]

They are like 3 votes away in the Senate on this, anyone up for a MASS CALL IN to Senators? not just ours.

[BPTactical]

Y'all realize the survey shown is from 1994? I am sure if such a thing was being solicited now we would have heard/seen it.
The recent events concern me greatly, this type of incident is a perfect catalyst to swing fence sitters.



Makes one wonder about a "Red Herring/False Flag" scenario.......

[flan7211]

Doubting they'll pass this if they didn't pass the Open Sea Treaty. Even so if they do its time we take a fucking stand then comply.

[hollohas]

The current form of the UN Gun Treaty has rules that would require nations exporting guns to follow them to the end user...if Beretta sells a gun in the USA they will be required to keep record the "end user"...you.

In other words, even if the USA doesn't sign the Treaty, Beretta for example won't be able to sell guns in the USA because we won't provide them end user records. We sign = international gun registry. We don't sign, other nations will = no more foreign made arms. We are screwed either way.

Say goodbye to some if not all of the models made by Beretta, Benelli, Glock, Sig, HK, Savage, Sako, Taurus, etc, etc, etc.

On top of that, they are trying to include parts, ammo and components in the Treaty.

I love American made firearms as much as the next guy, but some of the best guns are also made in foreign nations.

The attempts by the UN at an international registry is nothing new and has included small arms in the past. Although it stopped short of tracking to the end user and wasn't mandatory. Here's info about the existing register.

http://www.un.org/disarmament/HomePa...s/PDF/OP16.pdf

And attempts at tracing small arms

http://www.poa-iss.org/International...TI_English.pdf

We have been fighting new US anti-gun laws for the last 2 decades while they have quietly been working to control them internationally. The anti-gunners are good at what they do...I think they have a jump on us. Scary times ladies and gentlemen.

[Zundfolge]

The current form of the UN Gun Treaty has rules that would require nations exporting guns to follow them to the end user...if Beretta sells a gun in the USA they will be required to keep record the "end user"...you.

In other words, even if the USA doesn't sign the Treaty, Beretta for example won't be able to sell guns in the USA because we won't provide them end user records. We sign = international gun registry. We don't sign, other nations will = no more foreign made arms. We are screwed either way.

Say goodbye to some if not all of the models made by Beretta, Benelli, Glock, Sig, HK, Savage, Sako, Taurus, etc, etc, etc.

Bet you see these companies move to the US or open separate US divisions ... most of those companies can't live off of government contracts alone, they need the huge firearms market here in the US. Most of those countries already have some limited production going on in the US.


At any rate, I don't think the Senate is ever going to see the treaty ... I think Barry is going to try to pull a fast one by not sending it to the Senate since according to the Vienna Convention the instant it's signed it is in force (with the force of a constitutional amendment) UNTIL it's rejected by the Senate or renounced by the President. So if the Senate never hears it and the president never renounces it he just got the UN to repeal our Second Amendment.

So again, for the umpteenth time ... if Obama is re-elected, America is over. Period.

Also the only long term solution is the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. Frankly once the UN is gone the building in NYC should be leveled, the ground left bare and salted so that nothing ever grows or is built there again.